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>Really-From: TWeibre361@a...
[...]
>np: td in Bonn 1997 [...]

-- what?! what are you doing putting non-tape tree stuff in your decks? If
you've got time to listen to other stuff, it's time to launch the next tape
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>Really-From: PENFOLD 
>We need something like the album'o the week like we had.
>my $0.02

HEL-LO! Pete, did you READ yesterday's digest? did you SEE the D:LIVE!
discussion list that starts NEXT WEEK? or did you vote with your delete
key? I can only guess the latter since you've been on the ML a lot longer
than the time the D:LIVE! list was under debate, planning, construction,
preparation and etc. (IIRC, I don't think that you participated in the
january-february debates about what direction we should take our weekly
discussions either.) And remember, it's not just about live tapes!

I guess this means you've already chosen not to participate.... too bad, I
always thought you made interesting contributions to the former
dicussions....

The D discussions will return sometime next year.... that is, if someone
volunteers to decide the format (chronological or alphabetical, live v.
studio v. OST), the limitations (what's in, what's out [eg singles etc]), 
to assemble the discussion list & overall schedule (probably over 100
releases), to post the weekly schedule & reminders, to moderate the
discussions when needed, to answer questions from newbies and tuned-out
lurkers, and to track the discussions for participation statistics (to
answer questions from active participants etc) 

hey, Pete, did YOU just VOLUNTEER?!

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>Really-From: 'James Horecka, AIA' 
>Here I thought this Tangerine Dream list serve would be about the music
and
>latest news regarding Tangerine Dream.
>I am disappointed to see that out of the hundreds upon hundreds of
messages
>I have received so far, hardly a one discusses their MUSIC as music. You
>know, the artists and their art. [...]
>Oh, well, now to Unsubscribe from this list-serve, and find a different
>source for info about Tangerine Dream.

James if you're still out there:

1) this list is like the stock market, if you stay in it for the long haul,
through the ups and downs you'll realize more than if you just pop in and
pop back out after a few days. This list IS a great source of info, music,
& stuff that's why so many put up with so much.... if you've just popped
in for a few days, well, you'll never really know what you're missing if
you essentialize us based a few days' worth of non-discussions ... I guess
that'll be your loss (and perhaps ours as well). 

2) if you'd been reading the ML (I mean the other non-dream dice,
non-politics posts), you would have noticed that the D:Live! (+etc.)
discussions will be starting next week and running for about a year. You
want music discussions? you want to learn about td? it won't get any
better than this. before this, we had D:solo discussions that lasted about
a year and covered all ex/TD-related musicians and their solo efforts, and
before that we had the D discussions where we covered TD's official output
one album at a time -- those discussions lasted about a year.... after the
D:Live! list finishes, we're scheduled to return to the D official release
discussions and, with all of TD's upcoming output (whoa!), that should last
about 2 years! I don't think you'll find this anywhere else. It's true
that we are topic-less at the moment but we can't be 'on' every day of the
year.

3) You want NEW music? join a tape tree! they've been running for a few
months now and will continue for a few more months--watch this space for
more news! if not, try to get some swaps going by posting a buy/sell/trade
notice on the ML. Ask us about web sites and snail-mail places to buy td
and rarities! ask for members swap lists or make your own and offer it on
the list.

4) To reiterate what Scott was getting at: we create our own reality on
this list. if you don't want to read bitching and ranting about edgar and
the DD set and politics, then take it upon yourself to contribute something
positive. Criticism can be productive but usually complaining about the
complaining just adds to the problem...

It's like life (to use another simile) too many people here vote with their
delete keys and then grumble silently about what this list ISN'T (ususally
those who passively accept the so-called pre-determined limitations on our
freedoms ;-) A more effective way to define our reality and this ML is to
vote with your posts [voices/actions]! If you want music discussions,
don't just wait for others to get them started (although there are those of
us who do DO just that), do it yourself! 

5) Lastly, if you want another source of info about the band instead of
this list, might I suggest:

1) the td web page
2) dream collector magazine
3) voyager magazine
4) Jupe's spanish ML
5) Morgan's chat room

but, hey, the best way to find out about these things is to read the list
;-)

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In a message dated 98-06-05 10:27:46 EDT, you write:

<< -- what?! what are you doing putting non-tape tree stuff in your decks? If
you've got time to listen to other stuff, it's time to launch the next tape
tree! (I don't care if you are at work, take your decks along ;-) >>

hey...when you put out the call for 6 ill be ready...plus, i played about two
minutes for a quality check...

np: buckethead - grab bag II

	




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>unsubscribe politics-digest
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You idiot, you're supposed to send that to major. . . Oh, wait a
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>4) To reiterate what Scott was getting at: we create our own reality on
>this list. if you don't want to read bitching and ranting about edgar
and
>the DD set and politics, then take it upon yourself to contribute
something
>positive. Criticism can be productive but usually complaining about
the
>complaining just adds to the problem...

I must admit I can be one of the worst offenders when it comes to
off-topic posts (like this one!) but I've always this list as not so
much a forum where we MUST DISCUSS TD AND NOTHING BUT TD!!! but rather a
forum where TD fans can discuss anything, in the context of TD fandom. I
don' travel much (spent all my money on TD stuff!) so this is one of the
few ways I get to talk with people outside my area, so I, for one, don't
mind the off-topic posts as long as they don't get out of hand.

Ob. TD: Am I the only one who _likes_ Rockoon?

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Date:  Fri Jun 5, 1998  3:44
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Subject:  voices in the dunes for sale




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Dreamers
by chance, I've come across an extra mint paper-bound copy of Voices in the
Dunes (you know, the sears-catalog size book that has practically everthing
td!) 

I will consider both trade offers and cash offers... please email me
off-list ONLY.

thanks
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Date:  Fri Jun 5, 1998  3:44
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Subject:  ok, one more little thing about the dice




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the dice has 12 titles, box cars, ok, well it has 13 discs (DM1 = 2cd).... 
dice = gambling? gambling = chance? chance = luck? luck = good? but 13!?
therefore dice = bad luck? irony? 

Considering TD's many classical references (rubycon, phaedra, etc.) the
title dream dice reminds me of the story of Odyseus and Ajax at dice
(knucklebones) on the plains of Troy, gaming for the arms and armor of the
dead Achilles. Ajax lost and, since this was considered a major disgrace,
flew into a rage and disgraced himself even more and so committed suicide
out of shame.... let's hope dream dice buyer #301 doesn't do this ;-)

OK, my lips are now sealed on the DD subject
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On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:

> Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' 
> 
> Ob. TD: Am I the only one who _likes_ Rockoon?
> 
> Scott

Well...I'll admit to liking about half of what's on it, but not the other 
half. Specifically, I like 'Big City Dwarves', 'Touchwood', 'Graffiti 
Street', 'Funky Atlanta', 'Rockoon', and 'Girls on Broadway'.

The rest is all pretty naff, though, IMO.

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> Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' 
> 
> Ob. TD: Am I the only one who _likes_ Rockoon?


I never listen to it anymore. Mind you, the same goes for most of their
non-dream-mixed Miramar output. Rockoon isn't as outright boring as
Tyranny of Beauty, but it still combines the worst of their guitar-soloing
wankery with the worst of their 90s New Age tendancies. Their music had
gone from being ideal for background music in sportcasts to sounding like
canned riffs composed specifically FOR sportscasts. When Edgar really 
gets going on a solo - and the last time this happened was 'Hamlet' - he
injects it with real soul. But that's missing on Rockoon, despite the
plethora of six-string noises. 

Mind you, my opinions of albums change over time. Heck, I put on
Destination Berlin last year and it sounded just right for that particular
day.



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>If guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns.

If in-laws are outlawed, then only outlaws will have in-laws.

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tadream mailing list wrote:

> > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' 
> >
> > Ob. TD: Am I the only one who _likes_ Rockoon?

No, you're not. I used to listen for a while to Rockoon everyday - ( the first
two
tracks are pretty good) and sometimes the whole album - when I liked also ...
Rockoon track.What can I say about Rockoon ... it really rocks! Like 220 Volt
live.

>Rockoon isn't as outright boring as
>Tyranny of Beauty
You're right about Tyranny of beauty - ???? - Stratosphear 95 ??? - really
boring.

And one more thing:the latest TD re-mixes/singles - see Eleanor Rigby/Limited
world tour edition - Dream re-mixes etc - it seems that Edgar - and Jerome much
more than Edgar - is just experimenting on my/our ears with fast beat music -
what
can you say about two 120+BPM versions of the classical White eagle - it's
really
awful!
They're (Jerome's) just experimenting with presets, drums etc - recording it and
that's all - who cares about results?
Thif yang and tangram seal - ??? - a mix of small portions of Thief/Force
majeure/Tangram stuff - at 120+ BPM - no new idea - nothing - just concatenation
of good old classical TD tunes - made crappy by Jerome's touch and fast rhytm.

And yes, lately I listen to Oasis - their best album in a decade.

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tadream mailing list wrote:

> On a much more serious note I would like to extend my sympathy to all
> our friends over in Germany on the horrible high speed train wreck that
occured
> yesterday. 

I'm shocked too. It happened very near to Siemens MED headquarters and
factories 
( Erlangen, Nuernberg). I cannot but hope my friends and families weren't
involved but the fact is many german families are involved and their pain
cannot be expressed in words. It's futile to write this but, anyway, here it
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> Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' 

> Ob. TD: Am I the only one who _likes_ Rockoon?

I do too. 

I like allmost everything about TD ( except Goblins Club and a couple more)

RoCkoon is very listenable and has 2 3 good themes.

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At 07:44 PM 6/5/1998 +0100, you wrote:
>Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' 
>
>
>tadream mailing list wrote:
>
>> On a much more serious note I would like to extend my sympathy
to all
>> our friends over in Germany on the horrible high speed train wreck that
occured
>> yesterday. 
>
>I'm shocked too. It happened very near to Siemens MED headquarters and
>factories ( Erlangen, Nuernberg). I cannot but hope my friends and
families weren't
>involved but the fact is many german families are involved and their pain
>cannot be expressed in words. It's futile to write this but, anyway, here it
>is... My feelings are with them.
>
>-- Francisco

I agree.

I think the very existence of THIS list proves that the world is no longer
a group of totally unconnected societies. I don't think anyone could ever
say that the death of nearly 100 people didn't in some way affect them.
This tragedy, like any similar accident, affects far more than just those
who died. It WILL, ultimately, have SOME effect on each of us. 

It is a sad truth, that, in our current society, often the pain of
individuals is forgotten. I may not know anyone involved in that terrible
crash, but I, too, would like to send my condolences to their families and
friends. We have ALL lost something.

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Subject:  Miracle Mile




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Anyone looking for the Miracle Mile soundtrack? The online record store
Second Spin has a copy for $6.99 U.S. I've ordered from them, and can
assure you that they're for real. I got a copy of 'Wavelength' from them,
also for just 7 bucks.

http://www.secondspin.com/

Then do a search for 'Tangerine Dream'


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>feldon@p... chimed in with:
>>If guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns.

>If in-laws are outlawed, then only outlaws will have in-laws.

It guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will shoot their kids
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Scott

	




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>Anyone looking for the Miracle Mile soundtrack? The online
record store
>Second Spin has a copy for $6.99 U.S. I've ordered from them,
and can
>assure you that they're for real. I got a copy of 'Wavelength'
from them,
>also for just 7 bucks.

>http://www.secondspin.com/

>Then do a search for 'Tangerine Dream'

MM's all they had, though.

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I'm currently up in Calgary, Alberta on business, and while walking around
downtown, I came across a mall called 'TD Square'... Just when I needed a
camera...

Anyway... if anyone happens to know of any good *rare* cd shops in Calgary,
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> >http://www.secondspin.com/
> 
> >Then do a search for 'Tangerine Dream'
> 
> MM's all they had, though.


Yeah, but keep checking. They're a second-hand store, so they don't keep
albums in stock constantly. But every so often, someone out there might
trade something in that you've been looking for.



SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator

T O P I X / Mad Dog
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> I'm currently up in Calgary, Alberta on business, and while walking around
> downtown, I came across a mall called 'TD Square'... Just when I needed a
> camera...

We also have a 'Toronto Dominion' Bank - TD for short. I used to pay for
my membership in the TDIFC with money orders drawn from that bank...but
it's about to disappear in a mega bank merger.


SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator

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Subject:  So many releases.




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If you go to the coming soon section of the TDI page, it seems that in addition
to
the Dream Dice collection they have a few more releases coming out this year. 
It
seems that they have been holding out on us until they could get their page up
and
running to market their products.

Not that I really mind, but I sure am going to be broke buying music from only
one
band!


	




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Is any one interested in the Johannes Schmoelling disc 'weivend riet'?
I some how ended up with an extra copy. It is brand new, made in
Germany, but is not wrapped (never was) and never taken out of the
jewel box. e-mail me off list.

Also if you are currently involved in a trade with me please
e-mail me our last mail as I have had a massive computer failure.


Regards,

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On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:

> Really-From: 'Florine Epure' 
> 
> 
> tadream mailing list wrote:
> 
> > > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' 
> > >
> > > Ob. TD: Am I the only one who _likes_ Rockoon?
> 
> No, you're not. I used to listen for a while to Rockoon everyday - ( the
first two
> tracks are pretty good) and sometimes the whole album - when I liked also ...
> Rockoon track.What can I say about Rockoon ... it really rocks! Like 220 Volt
> live.

I think _Rockoon_ has one too many in the way of 'muzaky'-type 
tracks--'Spanish Love', 'Lifted Veil', 'Body Corporate'...and even 'Red 
roadster' isn't that exciting.

> >Rockoon isn't as outright boring as > >Tyranny of Beauty
> You're right about Tyranny of beauty - ???? - Stratosphear 95 ??? - really
boring.

I don't think so...I just wish they would have preserved more of the 
structure of the original 'Stratosfear', that's all.

> And one more thing:the latest TD re-mixes/singles - see Eleanor Rigby/Limited
> world tour edition - Dream re-mixes etc - it seems that Edgar - and Jerome
much
> more than Edgar - is just experimenting on my/our ears with fast beat music -
what
> can you say about two 120+BPM versions of the classical White eagle - it's
really
> awful!

HUH???
I'm pretty sure that Maedchen '97--both mixes--are *less* than 120 bpm! 
Slower, in fact, than 'White Eagle' itself!
That was what I liked most about them--yeah, he could have done a more 
rave-oriented mix, but instead, you get this sloooow, dreamy, almost 
langourous sound. I love it, I think it's the best version of the 'White 
Eagle' theme.

> They're (Jerome's) just experimenting with presets, drums etc - recording it
and
> that's all - who cares about results?
> Thif yang and tangram seal - ??? - a mix of small portions of Thief/Force
> majeure/Tangram stuff - at 120+ BPM - no new idea - nothing - just
concatenation
> of good old classical TD tunes - made crappy by Jerome's touch and fast rhytm.

Yeah, 'Thief Yang' is a much weaker track, I agree there. Though, I was 
surprised at how well the Tangram melody translated to that idiom.

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> Really-From: 'vroom' 


Welcome to the list Wroom. 
Any connection with Robert Fripp? 
I guess you're a fan of KK too.

> Hi all...This is my first post so hope i'm doing this right. I live in the
> usa (southern missouri) and was wondering if anyone can point me to a place
> (web or otherwise) where i can purchase the Electronic Orgy box set. 

I read Dream collector has some. Maybe other people on this list can give you
better info.


About the DIce better go directly to TD web page ( www.tadream.com)


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>Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:14:26 +0000
>Subject: Re: Reply from Michael Mann's Office
>From: tadream mailing list 
>Really-From: Brian E. Kirby 
>
>> Hi. This message is for Steven Feldman. I'm calling from Michael
>> Mann's office. His assistant asked me to, uh, call you [. . .]
>
>You know, of course, Steven, that Michael Mann is actually burning
>the music masters as you read this...

Groan. Thanks for the encouragement.
About a year within seeing THE KEEP LP, I got an interview with D.A.
Pennebaker, the director of ZIGGY STARDUST THE MOTION PICTURE. During
this interview, Pennebaker said that there was a duet between Bowie and
Jeff Beck, with Beck doing a prolonged harmonica solo and both he and
Mick Ronson wailing on guitars, which not only was not on the officially
released soundtrack album, but not on the extant bootlegs, either. He
said it was because Beck thought his performance sucked and 'requested'
that said footage be removed. When I asked about access to this
footage, Pennebaker said he had it on videotape and could copy it if I
brought along two VCRs to his apartment. And now, here comes the
familiar part: I was a dishwasher and didn't have the money to rent two
VCRs (this was 1984) and pay for a ticket to New York to get this mega-
rare item. I was a still a Bowie collector then, and *no one* had ever
mentioned this footage before (and no one else has since, for all I
know). I missed the boat on this, just like I did with THE KEEP LP.
My interview got printed in a UK Bowie fan magazine called STARZONE. It
was originally supposed to be in ROLLING STONE's then sister magazine,
THE RECORD.
Maybe Mann has footage or soundtrack tapes from THE KEEP that he
wouldn't be too upset about sharing. Believe me, if I get an interview
with the man, I *will* ask about such things (if he doesn't broach the
subject himself).

Steve Feldman (Me) -- 33 Brook Street; Brookline, MA 02146; 401-232-3876;
. Robert Carty -- 5478 S. 235 E. #E; Murray, UT 84107;
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FAVES: Tangerine Dream, Redshift, Nightcrawlers, R. Carty, Ozrics, Serrie
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In a message dated 98-06-05 13:44:48 EDT, you write:

<< And yes, lately I listen to Oasis - their best album in a decade.
>>


beg to differ...ambient monkeys....flame away....

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Subject:  Re: White Eagle track




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> Really-From: Gabe Yedid 
> ... 
> I'm pretty sure that Maedchen '97--both mixes--are *less* than 120 bpm! 
> Slower, in fact, than 'White Eagle' itself!
> That was what I liked most about them--yeah, he could have done a more 
> rave-oriented mix, but instead, you get this sloooow, dreamy, almost 
> langourous sound. I love it, I think it's the best version of the 'White 
> Eagle' theme.
> ... 

Have you heard the last White Eagle track on 3-Tier Dream? I think it is
the original version of Das Madchen auf der Treppe played at a slow
speed. I like it a lot. I wonder if it's similar to any of the Madchen 97
remixes.

-Alvaro


	




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Date:  Thu Jan 1, 1970  3:59
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Subject:  Beavis and RISKY B: Boi-oi-oi-oingggg!




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On Thu, 4 Jun 1998 01:50:40 -0400 you said:
Subject: review: risky business complete works
To: tadream mailing list 
>Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...>
>
>well ain't steven f going to get a stiffy over this! I just received
>today a copy of 'The Risky Business Complete Works' [. . .]

Boinnng! Hey Butt-head, he said 'stiffy'! Boi-oi-oi-oingggggg!
Heh-heh, heh-heh, heh-heh. Boi-oi-oi-oinggggg!

>[. . .] and no, it's not just an endless repetition of LOART ...
>things have been broken up a bit for variety.

Aw, shucks. ;)

>*** IF anyone has reich's 'Music for 18 Musicians' please let me know
>if we can trade a tape copy so I can compare it for myself... ***

This is easy to find. I saw one two weeks ago, in fact. Don't pay
more than $6.00 for it (on LP, anyways).

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Subject:  Re: Poetry and Scenario Visioning




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In a message dated 98-05-25 16:55:47 EDT, you write:

<< 
Very best regards to you all, wherever you are, from Bermuda

Nigel Merrick

>>
I would like to say that I really enjoyed this poem, especially the line:
'Guarding the real killers in the citadel'. What a beautifully creative mind
you have. And to be able to imagine that kind of cold, make the feeling come
through so well, when you live in Bermuda!! Incredible. 
My own vision of Elf June is not so complete: I get a feeling of a small
woman in trouble with the law, slipping behind trash cans down dark alleys,
being hidden by a special group of other law breakers like pick pockets and
petty thieves. She's as wild as the alley cats. And as frightened. Dell 

	




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In a message dated 98-06-05 05:59:54 EDT, you write:

<< << I think I am having problems getting e mails,

Can you send anything just to try.

Thank you,

Ingrid >>
>>
She is definitely having email problems; I tried and couldn't get
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In a message dated 98-06-05 11:28:57 EDT, you write:

<< 
Ob. TD: Am I the only one who _likes_ Rockoon?

Scott
>>
No, I like Rockoon a great deal, especially Body Corporate even though
the title makes no sense to me in relation to the melody. However, Red
Roadster is perfect for a drive through the country on a warm spring day. We
drove down dirt roads that only people who live down there usually see.
Imagine seeing a sailboat under construction behind a farm house miles from
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Date:  Thu Jan 1, 1970  3:59
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Subject:  Any Nifty Live Versions of Remote Viewing 1980-1983?




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Hi there. Since everybody else seems to be airing out their ids
here, these days, I don't think it'll be too self-indulgent of me to
ask . . .
Were there any notably intense live versions of 'Remote Viewing'
played between 1980 and 1983? Or any other time, for that matter?
I mean, were live versions pretty much the same, or did any versions
have 'extended jams' or ad libbed sound effects, or suchlike? Some of
my fave TD these days is 'Movements of a Visionary' (PHAEDRA), 'Rubycon
Pt. II,' 'Desert Dream' (ENCORE), STRATOSFEAR, 'Exit' (EXIT) and
'Remote Viewing' (EXIT).

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>Really-From: Steven Feldman 
>'Remote Viewing' (EXIT).

I really enjoy this release. I wish that we could compile all the crazy
meanings behind the track titles and put it up for review. So who has these
notes? I saw very interesting definitions/interpretations posted some 8-9
months ago...

As for your question Steve, wait for the D:Live discussions and all your
worries should go away (well almost ;-)

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> Really-From: Vic Rek 
> 
> I really enjoy this release. 

Ditto. One of my fave TD albums. Nothing else they've ever released sounds
like EXIT.

> I wish that we could compile all the crazy
> meanings behind the track titles and put it up for review. So who has
these
> notes? I saw very interesting definitions/interpretations posted some 8-9
> months ago...

Well, a 'choronzon' is an obscure synonym for 'demon,' so that's the
*coolest* track title, hands down :-)

'Exit' strikes me, with its somber, gloomy feel, as an allusion to suicide.
I think of a term/phrase like 'Remote Viewing' as detaching oneself from
the moment and observing from the outside, perhaps after some traumatic or
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On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:

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> Really-From: Steven Feldman 
> 
> 
> >Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 18:14:26 +0000
> >Subject: Re: Reply from Michael Mann's Office
> >From: tadream mailing list 
> >Really-From: Brian E. Kirby 
> >
> >> Hi. This message is for Steven Feldman. I'm calling from Michael
> >> Mann's office. His assistant asked me to, uh, call you [. . .]
> >
> >You know, of course, Steven, that Michael Mann is actually burning
> >the music masters as you read this...
> 
> Groan. Thanks for the encouragement.
> ...
> Maybe Mann has footage or soundtrack tapes from THE KEEP that he
> wouldn't be too upset about sharing. Believe me, if I get an interview
> with the man, I *will* ask about such things (if he doesn't broach the
> subject himself).

No, he is actually tying up all copyrights so if anything comes off
he gets it all... :-)

If you get an interview allow us to suggest some questions???
Apart from William Friedkin he has done more for TD than any
other filmmaker, in my opinion.

I presume you know he is indeed making a film right
now about the guy who whistle-blowed on the cigarette
companies as to their knowledge of the actual debilitating
effects of cig. smoke. Sounds odd for him but fits in to
his crime-noncrime-crime movie making style.
Find regular gossip from e set from aint-it-cool-news and
other good movie gossip web sites.

Mark Kosten
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Stephen,

Who am I? A Canadian. Been a TD Fan since about '82
Postings...Only been on a few weeks
Friendly...Definitely. (By the way I was not ranting)

I read the note and frankly was tired of hearing the
'America is greatest'. There really is no best country. Canada where
I am from was rated the number 1 country in the world, that
people would like to live in....Great country, but we have our
own set of problems, stupidity and
other nonsense.

The purpose of the note was basically to say, we should be tolerant of 
others, I took the note as an Attack on fellow fan (no need for that).
To the others who got 'upset'...chill...life is short..enjoy the music
while you're still here.

On the TD side, I enjoy the music. I think the 'DICE' forum has been
over
the top. I agree that the set will probably very expensive, but like
many
have said, if you think you're being ripped off, don't buy. I wish
TD luck
with the distribution side, I hope they have good contacts and even more
importantly good relationships with the folks that distribute the
music.

Seen TD 3 times (In Toronto), hoping that they will come back for
another
tour. Don't want to bore you any more. But lastly, on the wish list
side, I 
am interested in the Electronic Orgies Box (How many CD's are
there?) and as
a lot of people have asked for, a copy of the Man Inside? I am
willing to 
trade (e.g. Personal copies of the 3 TD dates in Toronto (86,88, and
I think
92?...quality of sound varies but they are 'Electronic Memories)

To the Yanks I ticked off....just remember we Canucks are cousins with
you..... 

>Really-From: Stephen Yensen 
>
>
>>Really-From: mchmiele@i... (mark chmielewski) > >Here we go again,
>America is God's gift to the world. > 
>
>Eh? Just who _is_ this fella?
>
>Since I have been on the list (July 1997) I've seen NO posts from him apart
>from this one. Not exactly the friendliest way of introducing himself to us..
>
>I'm relieved that the D:live discussions _will_ start pretty soon otherwise
>we'll all disappear up our own backsides..
>
>So, can we get back on topic, please? All the slagging off over the last few
>days was based on a misunderstanding (aren't they all?) so can we all calm down
>now, please? If you must carry on then please do so off-list.
>
>Or, maybe you want this list to degrade to how it was last November, eh?
>
>Steve (An Englishman by birth, but proud to be a member of the human race)
>
>NP: Coldwater Canyon by Tangerine Dream - remember them?
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> Really-From: mchmiele@i... (mark chmielewski)
> 
> Stephen,
> 
> 
> I read the note and frankly was tired of hearing the
> 'America is greatest'. 

I'm not Stephen but I don't remember reading any assortment of posts that
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> Aw, shucks. ;)
>
>>*** IF anyone has reich's 'Music for 18 Musicians' please let me know
>>if we can trade a tape copy so I can compare it for myself... ***


I have an old crappy cassette tape of this. Great stuff. My brother saw this
guy perform for a very small audience. Said he was something else. You can
sit and listen very carefully to all the nuances that are in the music,
subtle variations and changes. Wife hates it, too repetitious, she says. But
me, I love the 'endless' full-album side cuts. Pink Floyd's Echoes hooked
me, eventually after a few decades leading to TD, via Ricochet (great place
to start on TD, yes?!)

I concur that 'Love on a Real Train' is very Reich. In fact, if I didn't
know it was TD, I would have guessed Reich if someone asked, maybe, except
that Reich I think is not 'electronic,' all regular and vocals, I think.

Electronic Orgy is great fun. Certainly not their best stuff, but decidedly
different and enjoyable for us hard-core guys. In the 4 CD box there are a
lot of cuts, totaling around 5 hours. I was at the X-Files Expo in Los
Angeles, and was turned onto it there by a fellow collector. I followed the
lead, made a mad dash drive to Mile Square Park area, and bought the set
that day, along with some C. Franke soundtracks and some sci-fi soundtracks.

Jim Horecka, AIA


	




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Well, finally, here it is!

This week we would like to hear comments/reviews/thoughts
on :- (for specific details of dates/times, please consult the 
complete D:Live Schedule... )

Week 1 - All known dates 1967 & 1970-1973

The Ones: Lady Greengrass/Love of Mine 
Berlin (broadcast)
Ultima Thule Part 1/Part 2
Berlin (broadcast) (UT outtake) 
Ossiach (Welt-Musik Festival) 'Ozillator Planet Konzert' 
Official Release: Ossiach Live 3LP (BASF, 1971)
Boots: Mystery Tracks I (CD), Rare Trax I CDR),
Ossiach Live (CD)
Frankfurt (Frankfurt University)
Unknown location - live 35 min. (SB)
Berlin (RIAS FM) 'Klangcollage'
OST: Geradeaus bis zum Morgen 
Cologne (WDR-FM 'Klangwald')
Ponts de Ce 
OST: Ein fuer alle mal
Berlin (RIAS FM) 

And any other live (etc) material that may not be included here.

Please make the subject D:Live - Week 1 when replying.

I know there are plenty of people out there with this stuff
(courtesy of the tape trees) so lets have plenty of replies!

May I also once again point out that D:Live is not just for
tape tree members, but for everyone that has a comment
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Mark Chmielewski said...

> Seen TD 3 times (In Toronto), hoping that they will come back for
> another tour. Don't want to bore you any more. 

Then make sure that you participate in D:LIVE when the time is 
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>> Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' 
>> Ob. TD: Am I the only one who _likes_ Rockoon?
>I do too. 
>I like allmost everything about TD ( except Goblins Club and a couple >more)
>RoCkoon is very listenable and has 2 3 good themes.

I'm just about opposite of that, I love Goblin's Club and find it
much more interesting musically than Rockoon, Rockoon is probably the
only TD CD I cannot listen to all the way through, the first few songs
are great but once Spanish Love hits I just have to hit eject to save
my sanity, but GC gets about more play time then Phaedra at my house

of course with GC I'm biased since that's the first TD CD I ever
heard and it's what got me hooked :)

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Subject:  E. Froese - Pinnacles CDV2277




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'Disengaging lurk mode, Captain ... '

This CD does, in fact, exist, and I own a copy of it. The C&P dates are
1983 by Virgin Music, Place of Manufacture is the UK, and location of
purchase was at Hear's Music in Tucson, AZ (1992). There's another number
on the back side -- #5012981227722. The booklet is a white background
with smaller versions of the LP cover art on the front and on the inside. 
The typeface is the same as on the lp. 

It's my fault for not saying anything at the time, but for those who wrote
the image poems/stories -- I really appreciated reading those. If it
wouldn't be considered too much of a rip-off, I'd like to post some of my
own when the occasion merits (and when I have some time to do some real
writing). 

Regarding this new boxed set called the Dream Dice, which apparently has
offset the gravitational constant of our universe by a factor of 0.01: 
Has Tangerine Dream ever, on any occasion, 'given in' to the
objections/complaints of their fans? Have they reverted back to the 'old
style' of their music? Did they stop making music because of thrown
tomatoes, cheers and jeers? Has Mr. Froese ever said, 'Yes, the fans have
spoken, and knowing where our bread and butter is, we listened and gave in
to their demands?' Didn't think so. Has anyone ever considered what
would have happened if, after their first concert, Edgar hung up his
guitar and said, 'Okay, that didn't work out so well. Maybe I should
start selling real estate.' Yeah -- Edgar would have starved and we
wouldn't have TD. It's a good thing TD doesn't listen to its fans (which
is not the same thing as saying that they don't appreciate our presence). 

I have to imagine that complaining is what we do when we know something
has changed. The problem is, we focus on the thing or body right in front
of our eyes that we think has changed, rather than on the situation that's
developing all around us. My guess is that it's not the release of this
new boxed set or the latest album that they release that's the problem. I
think what's going on is that Tangerine Dream is growing in another area,
and we, as the fans, are not comfortable with this. TD has become like
the bad-guys, we say, the evil corporate raiders and money-grubbing
corporations. I disagree. 

I could be wrong, but has TD ever directly marketed any of their music
before? I always thought it was released through larger companies like
Virgin or what have you. I'm not in the music biz so I don't know how the
industry works. But it seems to me that TD has always been at odds with
the music distributors and promotors and categorizers who try to sort TD
into one particular category or another. However, years of commentary to
the press and label-jumping have not given them what they want: a way to
market their products on their own terms. So now they've got TDI, a
three-letter world. As usual, they're one step ahead of me -- I don't
shop via Internet yet. But that may change in the next few years (as will
my salary and job, I hope). Seems to me that we're going through growing
pains here, nothing else. Once again, TD is doing something, and we don't
like it. This is a good thing, then. 

That's my rather lengthy $0.02. 


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Mark J.
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In a message dated 98-06-06 11:59:39 EDT, you write:

<< This CD does, in fact, exist, and I own a copy of it. The C&P dates are
1983 by Virgin Music, Place of Manufacture is the UK, and location of
purchase was at Hear's Music in Tucson, AZ (1992). There's another number
on the back side -- #5012981227722. The booklet is a white background
with smaller versions of the LP cover art on the front and on the inside. 
The typeface is the same as on the lp. 
>>
What's the big deal? I thought this was a very common item. I own the same
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Subject:  D:LIVE++ - Lady Greengrass/Love of mine




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OK, I'll bite.

The single is most interesting regarding the history 
of Germany's music, especially the pre-Krautrock era
which started in the late 60s.

In these days a lot of musicians tried to imitate Anglo-American
pop/rock. The Ones did that quite well, they sound very British,
but they offered *nothing* different, nothing new.

Was quite a disappointment for me, when hearing it the first time some month
ago. I thought it might be a bit more psychedelic, more influenced
by one of the most innovative acts ever, Pink Floyd, that is.

I always found 'Lady Greengrass/Love of mine' misplaced on Rare Trax 1.

On another note: although not participating in the tape trees,
I'm expecting a lot of useful information in the D-Live++ discussions,
especially after hearing that *fantastic* Seattle '77 concert one week ago,
muchos gracias, Vic ! :-)

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For the benefit of us newcomers, please explain D:Live.

Sounds intriguing.

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Can we please try to tone down the language and discuss stuff that most people
on this list want to read, rather than duke private things out in a public
forum? I love the info of this list but the content lately is pretty
'tangentized.'

I feel pretty passionate about some things said here against organized
relgion, but I'll save the response for an appropriate place to discuss it.

Any body know what the future fate of Virgin's The Keep is????

	




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Subject:  Odds N Ends




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Hello everyone,
Since I don't have a computer I must use the ones at the library which I 
don't believe has the necessary software to post responses on the list, 
either that or the smog here in LA has finally fried out the last few 
brain cells I had left. So until I learn otherwise, Odds N Ends will be 
my thoughts on whatever is being discussed on the list.
First off, as to Rockoon, well, my first listen made me think that this 
was a Yanni/Kenny G collaboration of some sort. They lost the twangy 
sound I liked so much on the previous few albums and started sneaking 
more of the sax into the music. I do like Big City Dwarves, Rockoon, 
Touchwood, and also Roaring of the Bliss, while not on Rockoon, sounded 
like it was recorded during that time. I might point out to all you TD 
fans who are new, not to disregard 70's TD. When I first started 
listening to TD in the late 80's, I couldn't stand anything TD released 
prior to 86. However, in my humble opinion, Melrose was the last good 
studio album from that era and Rockoon was the beginning of TD's fall 
from excellence. Eager to listen to more TD, I found a new love for 70's 
TD. Depending on the directions the band will take now, you also may 
find yourself favoring Rubycon and the like as I do know. So always keep 
an open ear. One never knows when something will suddenly fit and make 
sense.
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hello list members

can anyone help me i am searching out the following dream albums
either on cd,cdr,or tape.

the dream is not always the same
absolutely hypnotised
cleveland 77
fasbinder memorial concert
electronic inspiration
timeless space
undercover dreams 
coventry 1975
london 1975
london 1976
berlin platz der republic
and any others between 75 & 86

i know they are all boots, i am also looking for a video copy of the ricochet
concert that was screened on BBC 2 in the seventies.

can someone also tell me how to get on to the tape tree and how it works
please.

if you can help,specially with the boot collection can you e mail me off list.

regards nick adams

ps.....dare i ask this....does anybody know where i can get a t dream t shirt
from, there done it.

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Subject:  1986 Tour TD T-shirt for Sale or Trade




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>Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:59:46 EDT
>Subject: Re: wanted list
>From: tadream mailing list 
>Really-From: Nick Adams 
>
> ps.....dare i ask this....does anybody know where i can get a t dream
>t shirt from, there done it.

The above is sort of a non sequitur, but I am assuming that you
meant something along the lines of 'does anybody know where i can get a
t dream t shirt from one of their concerts? There that should do it.'
Am I right?
I have a Tangerine Dream tour T-shirt from 1986 that has hardly been
worn at all--mostly because it was too small for me even when I bought
it (the results of a bad judgment call on gauging its size by eyeing it).
It is a size MEDIUM, though, so I don't how many people over 5'9' or so
would be able to wear it unless they were on the thin side.
The front of the shirt is the TD symbol like on the cover of the
TYGER album in black over a yellow circle. This image is about three
inches high and positioned over the left breast. The back of the
shirt lists about 15 tour dates and says above it something like
'Tangerine Dream on Tour' in black. This is, admittedly, a rather
sedate, no-frills shirt, but it is an official tour item, not a
knock-off.

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Subject:  D:LIVE - Week 1




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>Ultima Thule Part 1


This is one song that I wish TD would play as an encore in one
of their concerts... A very energetic and building piece (and not
quite as unstructured as one would think...) Each instrument
plays a significant part in the song...

- jim


	




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>Really-From: AOutland@a...
> No, I like Rockoon a great deal, especially Body Corporate even though
>the title makes no sense to me in relation to the melody. However, Red
>Roadster is perfect for a drive through the country on a warm spring day.
We
>drove down dirt roads that only people who live down there usually see.

To add to that, I've found ROCKOON to be one of the best summer daytime
driving albums (by anyone). To anyone who lives in/around Atlanta: take
the
Peachtree St. exit off of I-85 south (the one with the cool downslope), and
hit 'Graffiti Street' just as you turn the curve...

I think TD really captured the mood of the modern city on ROCKOON. I've
found that it fits Atlanta, Dallas, and St. Louis at the very least.
However,
'Funky Atlanta' does not seem a proper name... The song fits musically,
but the title doesn't.

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Subject:  The Future Fate of Virgin's THE KEEP?




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>Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:13:32 EDT
>Subject: Re: An appeal
>From: tadream mailing list 
>Really-From: AslanFan1@a...
>
>Any body know what the future fate of Virgin's The Keep is????

What do I look like, the spokesman for the Psychic Friends Network?
Hyuk yuk yuk. I don't think even the most adept dowsers, astrologers,
palmtrists, rune casters, tarot card readers, and channelers could give
you a definitive answer to *that*! ;)
'Know'? No. I don't think anyone does. I suspect an assortment
of demons from various religious pantheons have pitched in to suppress
its release so that when folks like Dano, Lars and Vic die, they can
assault their ears by playing it so loud for 72 hours straight that it
will even be heard in Heaven, so that no matter where Dano, Lars and
Vic end up, they'll be subjected to it. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
And while we're on the subject of THE KEEP, here's an article I am
posting for purely metaphorical purposes:

From ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY #421 (March 6, 1998), page 84:
^^^^^
DAVID GEFFEN PULLS 'LITTLE SHOP': HORROR OF 'HORRORS'!

No medium is too new to produce a collector's item. DVD claimed
its first in February when Warner Home Video mysteriously recalled
LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS: SPECIAL EDITION just a week after release,
sending aficionados of both the format and the offbeat movie musical
scrambling to find copies in stores with sluggish stock boys. Hardly
defective, the coveted disc actually sported one bonus too many: the
original 23-minute ending, heretofore seen only by 1986 preview
audiences, who got so angry when Rick Moranis and Ellen Greene were
eaten by the movie's basso profundo-voiced plant that director Frank
Oz was forced to shoot a cheerful capper, scrapping the leads' death
scenes and a sardonic, effects-filled epilogue in which Godzilla-size
flora conquer the world.
Warner wouldn't say exactly why this footage died a second death,
but producer David Geffen cops to rumors he was behind it. 'Of course
I objected,' says Geffen. 'They put out a black-and-white, unscored,
undubbed video copy of the original ending [that] looked like s---.'
Adds Oz: 'David called and was kind of upset it was coming out, because
he always wanted to rerelease the movie. And while I had a black-and-
white version of that ending, David has it in color, and I didn't
realize that.' . . .
^^^^^

So, you see, kiddies, here's an example of even a film's director
being in the dark as to what is and is not available out there in the
wide blue yonder.

-- Steven Feldman 
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Date:  Sat Jun 6, 1998  6:55
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Subject:  DD price




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Hi there, just got the latest news from Groove Unlimited, The Netherlands,
saying:

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The 12 CDs in the 'Dream Dice' Box of Tangerine Dream will also
be available as single CDs. It's just not possible to get the single CDs
from the TDI webpage. Just the Dream Dice Box can be bought there
for 650 DM or US$ 350. At this moment the Groove price is still
unknown. 
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There you have it, god N bad news. Dunno if the price information
is correct, but... Err, dare I say this ? NO.

Jens 

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tadream mailing list wrote:
> 
> Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' 
> 
> Hi there, just got the latest news from Groove Unlimited, The Netherlands,
> saying:
> 
>
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> The 12 CDs in the 'Dream Dice' Box of Tangerine Dream will also
> be available as single CDs. It's just not possible to get the single CDs
> from the TDI webpage. Just the Dream Dice Box can be bought there
> for 650 DM or US$ 350. At this moment the Groove price is still
> unknown.
>
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> 
> There you have it, god N bad news. Dunno if the price information
> is correct, but... Err, dare I say this ? NO.
> 
> Jens
> 
> npw ARP-X8


Well, keep monitoring for us web challanged folks, Jens. Not being
able to access the TDI page means that I would net be able to
get anything from TDI, so I have to count on some other outfit
that can be reached through email and will take credit card.

By the way, US$350 is an awful lot of cash; it amounts to double the 
usual cost per CD we are used around here. That's very little incentive
to get the whole thing if half of it is stuff that one already has.


C.B. Vincent Goudreault
autonomously breathing since 11:50 AM EST February 17 1957
online 'tadream' since early 1993, TD fan since 1977
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Date:  Thu Jan 1, 1970  3:59
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Subject:  Latest DA Music Sale




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It seems that DA Music is not done blowing out their Innovative
Communications stock, yet. Last time, they were selling CDs for $1.50
and cassettes for $0.50 each, in lots of 30. This time, they send you
a list of 44 CDs, and if you buy two of them, they send you 29 CDs for
free (but you have to pay $6.97 for shipping & handling for the whole
lot of it). Considering that quite a few used record stores will take
'undesirable' (i.e. crappy with little sale potential) CDs off your
hands if they're still sealed, you ought to be able to get at least
$15 if you sell 20 of the CDs, right?
Among the list of 44 albums from which you must pay full price
are:

o DRIVE-IN, VOL. II, by Rainer Bloss
o COLLECTION, by Klaus Kruger

The flyer I got says, 'This is a limited offer - all orders have
to be received by June 28, 1998 and all product will be shipped by
July 10, 1998 - or your money back!'
For more information:

o http://www.damusic.com/

o 

o DA Music
POB 3
Little Silver, NJ 07739

Steve Feldman (Me) -- 33 Brook Street; Brookline, MA 02146; 401-232-3876;
. Robert Carty -- 5478 S. 235 E. #E; Murray, UT 84107;
801-281-2157; http://www.california.com/~eameece/carty.htm. Peter Gulch/
Nightcrawlers -- 1493 Greenwood Ave.; Camden, NJ 08103; ; http://www.voicenet.com/~pgulch/special.html. SOME CURRENT E-MUSIC
FAVES: Tangerine Dream, Redshift, Nightcrawlers, R. Carty, Ozrics, Serrie
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Date:  Sat Jun 6, 1998  7:42
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Subject:  Japanese TD rarities?




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Hi folks

I'm off to Japan again later this month and wondered if there are any
Japanese TD items worth searching out. What about Mandalla? That was a
video disc wasn't it?

Any suggestion of places to visit (i.e. record stores) - I'll be in Osaka
and possibly Tokyo and Nagoya.

-- 
Dermot Bradley
bradley@o..., bradley@d...


	




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Subject:  New Leader for Tangerine Dream (according to Manikin)




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What do you make of this:

new!
edward artemiev 
the odyssey (sson!) 
30 dm 


first time on cd available! the best
solo project of the leader from
tangerine dream.
>endlich gibt es dieses
herausragende solowerk vom
td-chef auf cd!.


(from the current Manikin page :http://www.manikin.de/index_cata.html)

When did this guy take over from Edgar?

---John




jp

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Subject:  RE: DD price




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> Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' 
> 
> npw ARP-X8 

euh ??
ARP, I know, but whats a X8?

Marcel
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Subject:  Ages and Pinnacles Found in Calgary




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Just in case anyone reads this before Monday morning:

I found a store that has Pinnacles and Ages on CD here in Calgary. 
Both are on the Caroline label (which imports Virgin into N.A., correct?).

Don't remember the exact price, but they were around 16-17 Canadian 
Dollars. If someone wants them, let me know before I leave to go back
to the states Monday morning...

- jim


	




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Subject:  Japanese Rarities (ATTN Dano)




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>Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:42:02 -0600 (MDT)
>Subject: Re: Japanese TD rarities?
>From: tadream mailing list 
>Really-From: Dermot John Bradley 
>
>I'm off to Japan again later this month and wondered if there are any
>Japanese TD items worth searching out. [. . .]

Well, I believe it has not as yet been established that the
Japanese laserdisk of THE KEEP does not contain either of the long
endings that have been broadcast on American network TV but not on
premium cable stations.
Apparently, many video and laserdisk shops in Japan and Hong Kong
will make videotape copies of laserdisks or videos while-you-wait for
a modest fee, so if you find a KEEP LD with a long ending, get a tape
of it if you don't want to spring for the LD itself.
Also, if you wind up in Japanese laserdisk store that copies stuff
for you, I have some requests for English-subtitled laserdisk items
that have added footage that American and Hong Kong laserdisks do not:

o HELLBOUND: HELLRAISER II (has a minute-long scene that appears on
no other video nor laserdisk)

o FIRST MISSION, a/k/a HEART OF DRAGON, directed by Samo Hung, starring
Jackie Chan and Samo Hung [Jackie Chan's only straight role, and Samo
won a Best Actor award for playing a retarded boy in this] (has two
lengthy fight scenes that are not available on US, UK, and Hong Kong
videotapes and laserdisks)

o RICKY O a/k/a STORY OF RICKY [X-rated -- for violence, not sex --
live-action version of an anime which in turn was based on a manga]
(has outrageous amounts of gore that was drastically cut for export
to everywere else)

These three items are nearly impossible to get stateside. If you
can get subtitled copies of any of Japanese lasedisks, I'll pay you for
the copies. As for FIRST MISSION/HEART OF DRAGON, I'll even pay for a
non-subtitled copy, since I already have the rest of the movie on tape
in English.

>[. . .] What about Mandalla? That was a video disc wasn't it?

No. It was an HDTV broadcast.

>Dermot Bradley
>bradley@o..., bradley@d...

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Subject:  Re: D:LIVE - Week 1(before we start...)




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BAD TRADER ALERT:

mfox@i... (Michael Fox)


will post address monday...

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> Really-From: Aured Azhallein Rancuel 
> 
> >> Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' 
> >> Ob. TD: Am I the only one who _likes_ Rockoon?
> >I do too.
> >I like allmost everything about TD ( except Goblins Club and a couple >more)
> >RoCkoon is very listenable and has 2 3 good themes.
> 
> Rockoon is probably the
> only TD CD I cannot listen to all the way through, the first few songs
> are great but once Spanish Love hits I just have to hit eject to save

Hum!, maybe because I'm spanish i can go on :). Fact is first songs are the
best ones. But GC is hardly TD music ( just my opinion). Too mainstream and
too clean (lacking power, force, energy, chaos...) for my taste. 

> my sanity, but GC gets about more play time then Phaedra at my house
> of course with GC I'm biased since that's the first TD CD I ever
> heard and it's what got me hooked :)

Hooked by Goblins club !, well it does have a positive point at least.
An loving GC and Phaedra at the same time! you certainly have an open mind
for music...


-Francisco


	




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Subject:  Re: New Leader for Tangerine Dream (according to Manikin) NO, not at all !!!!!!




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>Really-From: JMPoer 
>
>What do you make of this:
>
>new! edward artemiev the odyssey (sson!) 30 dm 
> 
> first time on cd available! the best
> solo project of the leader from
> tangerine dream.
[snip]
>
>(from the current Manikin page :http://www.manikin.de/index_cata.html)
>
>When did this guy take over from Edgar?

Never, I'd guess.
The Manikin catalogue got a bit desolated as the text refers to
this item:

edgar froese macula transfer 30 dm 

Looks like the web guy inserted the two new edward artemiev entries 
at the wrong place, that's all, John.

Kind Regards

yet another jp ;-)



	




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Subject:  Re: OFF Topic, ARP X8 was DD price




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Marcel Engels asked
>> npw ARP-X8 
>euh ??
>ARP, I know, but whats a X8?


Not what you guess, has nothing to do with the ARP company.
ARP X8 is a stonking 8 layer ARPeggiator software offered from a
most excellent American programmer for about $20. Ask OFFLIST
for further information, fancy a sample MIDI output file ?

>Marcel
>npw: mellotron-sets on A3000

Did you finished the work with the samples then ?

Sorry for the off topic content, folks.
Thanks.

Err wait a minute, do you use some of Peter Baumann's Mellotron sets as well,
Marcel ?

Jens

npw: MELLOTRON choir wavetables on MicroWave II, sex in a blue box ;-)


	




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Subject:  Re: D:LIVE - Week 1(before we start...)




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Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' 


At 04:10 PM 6/6/1998 EDT, Tom wrote:

>Really-From: TWeibre361@a...
>
>
>BAD TRADER ALERT:
>
>mfox@i... (Michael Fox)
>
>
>will post address monday...

You may have jumped the gun, on this, Tom.

This must be a misunderstanding. Dr. Fox's character is beyond reproach. He
is not only a well-respected member of the medical community, but also a
percussionist with the Columbus Symphony Orchestra.

I am sure that any misunderstanding can be cleared up easily.

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In a message dated 98-06-06 17:38:17 EDT, you write:

<< You may have jumped the gun, on this, Tom.

nope...120 days have elapsed since i sent tape tree one to this gentleman...if
u want, id be happy to post the numerous e-mails i have sent and the numerous
responses ive received...bottom line? hes got the goods and i dont have the
trade...

This must be a misunderstanding. Dr. Fox's character is beyond reproach. He
is not only a well-respected member of the medical community, but also a
percussionist with the Columbus Symphony Orchestra.

post office is...

I am sure that any misunderstanding can be cleared up easily.

yup...send the goods....in the meantime....TRADER BEWARE....address and other
particulars to be posted monday

tom w

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Subject:  Re: D:LIVE - Week 1 - Sunday, June 7th 1998




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In a message dated 98-06-06 09:08:52 EDT, you write:

<< know there are plenty of people out there with this stuff
(courtesy of the tape trees) so lets have plenty of replies!
>>

heres my question: is there anyone on this list that taped anything personally
from this time period? tell us your experience....


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Subject:  White Eagle




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Maybe this has already been answered (I vaguely remember a similar
question a while back...), anyhow I just recently bought a Definitive
Edition White Eagle and the cover on the CD is blue rather than White
like the other Definitive Edition CD's that I have, is this of 
any significance?

Also, on the inside sleeve it gives the time marks for the for 
'movements' of Mojave Plan and the Tangents Box Set gives two
names (canyon part and desert part) have the other two movements
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Subject:  Re: not about dream dice (well, maybe), not about politics




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I also have a special attraction for the first TD album I heard. 
Consequently, I always go back to Atem. Most of the early albums I have 
on vinyl. Somehow there's something interesting about that too. I just 
ordered the Dice. I'll get used to it quickly I think. (somehow, the 
$300 will motivate me in a way I'm not used to).

_____________________________________________________________
>> Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' 
>> Ob. TD: Am I the only one who _likes_ Rockoon?
>I do too. 
>I like allmost everything about TD ( except Goblins Club and a couple 
>more)
>RoCkoon is very listenable and has 2 3 good themes.

I'm just about opposite of that, I love Goblin's Club and find it
much more interesting musically than Rockoon, Rockoon is probably the
only TD CD I cannot listen to all the way through, the first few songs
are great but once Spanish Love hits I just have to hit eject to save
my sanity, but GC gets about more play time then Phaedra at my house

of course with GC I'm biased since that's the first TD CD I ever
heard and it's what got me hooked :)

>FSC

-Scott



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Date:  Sun Jun 7, 1998  2:59
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Subject:  Dream Dice : Another Perspective




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Hi,

With all the negative views on the Dream Dice set I'd like to put another 
point of view in.

Some have commented on it contain CD's they already own - they're luck 
they've been able to get them. If you think it's had to get TD stuff in 
the U.S, try in Australia. It was pure fluke that I managed to get 
Tangents and it took me six months to get Dream Roots as import (I don't 
have a credit card to can't order over the net). Occasioannly new 
releases will pop-up here (I manged to get Oasis and Goblins Club but 
they had come in as imports) but as for Timesquare, Ambient Monkeys, 
Tournado - forget it.

Then there is the cost of CDs. Mornal price for CD's in Australia is $25 
- $30 (normally exchange rate is around $AU1 = $US0.65 although it down 
to about $US0.60 at the moment). This would mean I'm looking around 
$AU300 for Dream Dice :-( (Which I would consider getting)

Marc
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Date:  Sun Jun 7, 1998  3:24
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Subject:  Dream Dice Price Confirmed






Hi all, 
 
The TDI page already announced the price for Dream Dice as DM500 or USD300. On average a CD costs, just like when it was from Voiceprint, about USD25 each. Not so bad it seems! As long as they can come up with the postage I will attempt to get one :-) 
 
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Jeffrey wrote:
 
>The TDI page already announced the price for Dream Dice as DM500 or USD300. On >average a CD costs, just like when it was from Voiceprint, about USD25 each. Not so >bad it seems! As long as they can come up with the postage I will attempt to get one :-)  
 
FWIW: It's lower than USD 25 per disc,as it'll come with 14 CDs. DMI is a 2CD set and
for some reason a new entry appeared yesterday: a 3 track bonus CD, no further information available.
 
USD 300 is more than DM 500, btw.  
 
Kind Regards
 
Jens





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D:Live is basically a discussion about live concerts, live albums,
fan tapes, bootlegs, unreleased soundtracks, radio broadcasts,
tv shows, etc... (pretty much everything that has not been released
on an official studio album).

The plan is, every week, I post the items up for discussion during
the coming week and invite comments.

Not only does it give the list a direction, but hopefully, a lot of people
get enjoyment out of hearing reviews/discussions/comments about
material that they have never heard, or even from reminiscing about
their own concert experiences (which hopefully they will share with
everyone).

I've seen TD twice.. (1990 and 1997) so I'll be reliving my experiences
then... hopefully, some of the people who are longer in tooth could
post some experiences from 70's gig... I'd love to hear them.

The tape trees were/are a way that some of the material up for discussion
can be spread amongst the fan base, and was set up to coincide with
D:Live... basically to enable D:Live to be participated in by as many
people as possible.

Finally, I keep stats of the number of replies made for various topics which
I post at the end of the discussion (45 weeks from now). There have been
a few different discussion threads. The last main one was D:Solo hosted
by Vic, which discussed the solo output of all members of TD past and
present. The next one is likely to be revisiting all officially released
albums
again.

Hope this helps,

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>> Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' 
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

Could you please turn off HTML in your e-mail? 

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> Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' 
>> Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' 
>> npw ARP-X8 

> euh ??
> ARP, I know, but whats a X8?
> Marcel

Suffice to say... it is the dogs bollocks. :-)


	




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At 10:55 AM 6/5/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Really-From: JMPoer 
>
>
>It is a sad truth, that, in our current society, often the pain of
>individuals is forgotten. I may not know anyone involved in that terrible
>crash, but I, too, would like to send my condolences to their families and
>friends. We have ALL lost something.

The death of one person in your town/city is worth 5 people dead in another
city, and worth 20 people dead in another country. (this is not my quote)

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At 01:47 AM 6/6/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Really-From: mchmiele@i... (mark chmielewski)

>
>Seen TD 3 times (In Toronto), hoping that they will come back for another
>tour. Don't want to bore you any more. But lastly, on the wish list side, I 
>am interested in the Electronic Orgy Box (How many CD's are there?) 

--==[Electronic Orgy tracklist disc 1]==----------------------------

Philosophical Conversation (Legend) :22
Oszillator Planet Concert (Ossiach Live) 8:00
Ultima Thule 1 (7') 3:24
Ultima Thule 2 (7') 4:21
Overture (V, Oedipus Tyrannus) 10:58

70-80 Boxed set
Haunted Heights (Baumann) 5:56
Chimes & Chains (Franke) 4:35
Baryll Blue (Froese) 7:04
Monolight remix 3:06

Dr. Destructo (Thief, 12') 4:14
Confrontation (Craig Safan, Thief ST) 5:32
Code Name: The Soldier (theme) 1:51

Baumann, C & G Schnitzler
Die Russen Kommen 3:28
The 4:08 to Paris 4:08
The Russians are Coming 4:43

--==[Electronic Orgy tracklist disc 2]==----------------------------

Froese Solos 1974-1979
OS 452 remix 5:26
PA 701 remix 4:42
Tropic of Capricorn remix 4:34
Pizarro and Athuallpa remix 4:10
NGC 891 rerecord 4:33

Tatort Soundtrack 1982
Das Madchen Auf Der Treppe 3:43
Flock 2:22
Katja 2:47
Speed 2:29
Daydream 4:31
Moorland 3:51

The Keep promo LP
Fisherman's Morning 3:24
Romanian Road 2:55
Sailing Mission 3:02
Gloria 3:10

Risky Business LP
The Dream is always the same 2:24
Love on a Real Train 2:15

Risky Business press kit
Chased by Guido, the Killer Pimp 3:04
Joel and the Porsche 1:02
Catching the Egg :12
Return of the Goodsens :58
Love on a Real Train 3:10

Warsaw in The Sun (7' single) 3:48 

--==[Electronic Orgy tracklist disc 3]==----------------------------

Warsaw in the Sun 1 (12') 4:45
Warsaw in the Sun 2 (12') 2:58
Streethawk (radio-12') 3:02
Legend-Prologue 1:20
Legend - Unicorn Theme (WDR - Cologne, 'Schwingungen 2/23/89)
7:02, Horns of Doom (KLEM anniversary) 5:41
Dolphin Smile 12' 4:55
Brother or Stranger (City of Shadows end credits) 4:43
Shy People original 5:17
Shadow Flyer (Canyon Dreams VIDEO remix) 7:14
A Time for Heroes 6:02
A Time for Heroes 4:12
House of the Rising Sun (1988 tour) 4:32
Vermillion Sands (KLEM CD) 5:33
Alexander Square 6:16

--==[Electronic Orgy tracklist disc 4]==----------------------------
Lost Tale KLEM 3:25
Octahedron I (Haslinger solo) 4:45
Octahedron II (Haslinger solo) 4:05
I just want to rule my own life without you (instr.) 3:28
One Night in Medina (Tatort CD single) 3:42
I just want to rule my own life without you (vocal) 3:58
Roaring of the Bliss (Private Music TD) 4:58
Beaver Town (Private Music TD) 4:24
Machiko (KORG CD) 2:46
Dreamtime (vocal - Dreamtime/220 V single) 3:40

220 Volt/Three Phase video
Graffitti Street 4:39
Phaedra (blue) 3:44
Oriental Haze 5:36
Love on a Real Train 3:18

Story of the Brave (Turn of the Tides CD-5) 5:17
Quazar CDI 3:43
Sound Sampling of 'No Man's Land' 4:13
The Dream is Always the Same (Tom Cruise quote) :30

-=================-------------------------------------------------------
-Morgan


	




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At 02:05 PM 6/6/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Week 1 - All known dates 1967 & 1970-1973
>
>Ultima Thule Part 1/Part 2

I love these two tracks. They are not at all experimental-sounded as most
of the other 1970-73 stuff sounded. It sounds very well thought-out.

>Ossiach (Welt-Musik Festival) 'Ozillator Planet Konzert' 

This is very very experimental sounding. Atem comes to mind... No clear
rhythm or melody, but still interesting.

Wish I could say more but I'm not great at making emotional references to
music.

Morgan

n.p. Electronic Orgy disc 1


	




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Subject:  Re: Dream Dice Price Confirmed




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At 11:24 AM 6/7/98 +0800, you wrote:
>On average a CD costs, just like when it was from 
>Voiceprint, about USD25 each.

The average music CD sells for $13 in the USA. As part of a boxed set, that
price should drop to $9. Someone explain $26 a CD *inside a boxed set* to me?

TDI Music now taking gratuitous donations and selling CDs for 2.5x normal
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Date:  Sun Jun 7, 1998  2:24
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Subject:  what is d:live?




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>Really-From: 'James E. Horecka, AIA' 
>For the benefit of us newcomers, please explain D:Live.
>Sounds intriguing.

yes indeed, 'D' is the weekly discussion forum where, in the past, we have
discussed TD's official output, and solo output of members and ex-members. 
Now the weekly 'D' discussions are turning to TD's live output (and singles
and various other releases and bits and pieces including unreleased
soundtrack material). 

The complete schedule was posted last week, and the topic for the upcoming
week is usually announced a few days ahead of time. Basically it is an
unmoderated discussion of anything related to that week's topic (eg: those
releases, non-releases and live dates).

to facilitate discussions, a series of 19 tape trees (distributing about 80
tapes) has been organized and is currently running. Watch the list for the
next call for participation and follow the instructions.

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Trawling through my old tape collection (conveniently kept a big box in
the loft), I found my tape copy of Flashpoint. It has a Catalog No. HMI
MC 29 and appears to have been issued by Heavy Metal Worldwide. Insert
states:Copyright 1984 Carbon Iferous Music Inc, Published 1984 Silver
Screen Inc under license to Capitol Records Inc. It includes Flashpoint
, *Performed by The Gems* (whoever they were) ;-)

Anyone seen this release before ? The only detail I have on previous
releases is an EMI listing EMI America ST 17141

np: Flashpoint - surprise, surprise


	






    
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Subject:  Goblins club




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On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:

> I'm just about opposite of that, I love Goblin's Club and find it
> much more interesting musically than Rockoon, Rockoon is probably the
> only TD CD I cannot listen to all the way through, the first few songs
> are great but once Spanish Love hits I just have to hit eject to save
> my sanity, but GC gets about more play time then Phaedra at my house
> of course with GC I'm biased since that's the first TD CD I ever
> heard and it's what got me hooked :)
> -Scott
I agree 100% with Scott ! GC is a killer. IMO the best TD record of
the 90ies. Very good while driving in your car on a long 'Autobahn'.
Most liked tracks are: Rising Haul in silence, Towards the evening
star, Elf June... and On cranes' passage. But the rest is very good, too.
I play GC just every day in my office and made a tape for the car.
Hear it LOUD ! No problem if Edgar and Co. make more records like GC
the next 10 years. 

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Subject:  Re: Flashpoint




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-----Original Message-----
From: tadream mailing list 
To: tadream@c... 
Date: 07 June 1998 17:32
Subject: Flashpoint

>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Really-From: Steve Jenkins 
>
>
>Trawling through my old tape collection (conveniently kept a big box in
>the loft), I found my tape copy of Flashpoint. It has a Catalog No. HMI
>MC 29 and appears to have been issued by Heavy Metal Worldwide>
>Anyone seen this release before ? The only detail I have on previous
>releases is an EMI listing EMI America ST 17141
>


Heavy Metal Records had the exclusive rights for issue of the S/T in the UK.
Look out for the CD on HMI, very few made were playable and those that did
play are worth some cash now.



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Subject:  Re: Flashpoint




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At 05:39 PM 6/7/1998 +0100, you wrote:
>Really-From: 'Stuart Judd' 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: tadream mailing list 
>To: tadream@c... 
>Date: 07 June 1998 17:32
>Subject: Flashpoint
>
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>Really-From: Steve Jenkins 
>>
>>
>>Trawling through my old tape collection (conveniently kept a big box in
>> snip ....
>
>
>Heavy Metal Records had the exclusive rights for issue of the S/T in the UK.
>Look out for the CD on HMI, very few made were playable and those that did
>play are worth some cash now.
>
>
>
>Stuart Judd


Could you possibly elaborate on that statement? I, of course, got out my
copy of Flashpoint (HIM XD29) to check.

It seems to play normally. Is there some particular failure that's common,
or is it a general 'just won't play' type failure?

John


jp

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Subject:  Re: Any Nifty Live Versions of Remote Viewing 1980-1983?




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In a message dated 98-06-05 22:21:56 EDT, you write: Vic:

<< >'Remote Viewing' (EXIT).

I really enjoy this release. I wish that we could compile all the crazy
meanings behind the track titles and put it up for review. >>
I hope I'm not repeating something someone else mentioned before I joined
the list, but I have heard that Remote Viewing was a code for a group of
psychics employed by our own government of the USA and housed at Quantico
Marine Base many years ago. The idea was that they could focus in on intense
emotion such as a kidnapped victim like a top military or governmental figure
in an effort to try to pinpoint where they were to rescue them. From what the
tv program said, they came pretty close. They were able to visualize where one
general (I think) was being held, but by the time they got there he had
already been killed. Kind of gives you a whole new way of listening to that
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Subject:  Re: not about dream dice, not about politics




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>Hooked by Goblins club !, well it does have a positive point at least.
>An loving GC and Phaedra at the same time! you certainly have an open >mind
>for music...

Actually you're more right than you know :), I've found I'm more open
to different music styles than most people, after all I enjoy Zeit,
Phaedra, Optical Race and Turn of the Tides all about the same amount
(which is just less than Goblin's Club), and I also listen to Yanni,
Metallica, 10,000 Maniacs and Steve Roach (if that's not an odd
combination....), heh of course that's not quite as weird as a friend
of mine who's a Marilyn Manson Freak that also listens to Yanni!!!


>- -Francisco

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>Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 07:55:34 -0500
>Subject: Re: Electronic Orgy tracklist
>From: tadream mailing list 
>Really-From: feldon@p...
>
>--==[Electronic Orgy tracklist disc 1]==----------------------------
>
>Oszillator Planet Concert (Ossiach Live) 8:00
>Ultima Thule 2 (7') 4:21
>Overture (V, Oedipus Tyrannus) 10:58

These three are sorta boring.

>Ultima Thule 1 (7') 3:24

As Kyle of SOUTH PARK would say, 'Kick Ass!'

>70-80 Boxed set
> Haunted Heights (Baumann) 5:56

One of the very best TD-related recordings *ever*, IMHO. Except
for RUBYCON, AQUA, and EPSILON IN MALAYSIAN PALE, I prefer this to
just about anything/everything TD did from 1973-1977.

>Dr. Destructo (Thief, 12') 4:14

A great remix of a great song.

>Confrontation (Craig Safan, Thief ST) 5:32

I don't care whether or not TD did this. It's pretty good.

>Baumann, C & G Schnitzler
> Die Russen Kommen 3:28
> The 4:08 to Paris 4:08
> The Russians are Coming 4:43

Pyuk. Purely for completists.

>--==[Electronic Orgy tracklist disc 2]==----------------------------
>
>Froese Solos 1974-1979
> OS 452 remix 5:26

This remix is my single favorite Froese solo track after 'Snake
Bath' from his KAMIKAZE 1989 soundtrack. It beats the snot out of
the original version that's on MACULA TRANSFER.

> PA 701 remix 4:42
> Tropic of Capricorn remix 4:34
> Pizarro and Athuallpa remix 4:10
> NGC 891 rerecord 4:33

Great stuff. Better than the originals in almost every case. I
am greatful that someone put this on CD.

>Tatort Soundtrack 1982
> Das Madchen Auf Der Treppe 3:43

Nice 'White Eagle' variant.

> Flock 2:22
> Katja 2:47
> Speed 2:29

Some feeble stuff (like 'Beavertown' and 'Roaring of the Bliss'),
but nice to have on CD.

> Daydream 4:31
> Moorland 3:51

I love both of these tracks, and always have. Shame on Edgar for
not putting them on any of his upcoming TDI CDs (although maybe they'll
be on ANTIQUE DREAMS or TWILIGHT FOLDER).

>--==[Electronic Orgy tracklist disc 3]==----------------------------
>
>Horns of Doom (KLEM anniversary) 5:41

This is one dynamite track. It picks up where 'Silver Scale'
leaves off!

>Dolphin Smile 12' 4:55

This is as lame as I remember it being, unfortunately.

>Alexander Square 6:16

This remix is one of TD's best disco-type tracks.

>--==[Electronic Orgy tracklist disc 4]==----------------------------
>Lost Tale KLEM 3:25

This is one of the worst things TD's ever done. Makes 'Spanish
Love,' 'Penguin Reference,' and 'Body Corporate' seem like 'Mothers
of Rain.'

>Octahedron I (Haslinger solo) 4:45
>Octahedron II (Haslinger solo) 4:05

Pretty good.

>Story of the Brave (Turn of the Tides CD-5) 5:17

Why 'Quasar' is on the new TDI TYRANNY OF BEAUTY CD but 'Story
of the Brave' is not on the new TDI TURN OF THE TIDES CD is a question
that bothers me. So what if it's on DREAM ENCORES? It belongs on
TURN OF THE TIDES.

>Quazar CDI 3:43

Also on the Italian CD-I was the 15-minute version of 'Catwalk.'
I would have included this instead of some of the stuff from THREE
PHASE that wound up in this set.

>Sound Sampling of 'No Man's Land' 4:13

This the single coolest thing on this entire set, IMHO. It is
wicked cool to see how this great song was made. Wicked cool indeed!

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In a message dated 98-06-06 14:36:10 EDT, you write: Jim Moore:

<< I think TD really captured the mood of the modern city on ROCKOON. I've
found that it fits Atlanta, Dallas, and St. Louis at the very least.
>>
And I would imagine even New York City with Big City Dwarves. I have been
to that city twice and felt very insignificant alongside those behemoths of
brick and glass. People were scurrying everywhere as if there were no time
left, taxis flying around curves whether there were people in the street or
not, even Burton and Taylor were dwarfed behind crowds of the curious as
their limo passed by. The music makes me feel like I'm on about the 15th floor
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Date:  Thu Jan 1, 1970  3:59
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Subject:  KEEP gifs & jpg on the Web




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As we all know, whatever's on the web is ephemeral, so just because
someone posts a URL today, doesn't mean that it will exist tomorrow.
So, if anyone wants to download a copy of any of these KEEP images, do
so sooner than later.

Gifs & jpg collected on 7 june 1998:

o Medium-sized image of the movie poster:
http://us.imdb.com/Posters?Keep,+The+(1983)

o Medium-sized image of hoaxed KEEP 8-track tape
http://members.tripod.com/~Beige/keepstrk.gif

o Thumbnail image of THE KEEP paperback cover (non-movie-tie-in version)
http://www.siue.edu/~kcole/f.paul/adversary.html

o Large image of THE KEEP paperback cover (non-movie-tie-in version)
http://www.siue.edu/~kcole/f.paul/the_keep.gif

o Small image of really cool, different (UK?) THE KEEP paperback cover:
http://www.scifi.com/pulp/paul/paulworks.html

Why did I end up finding so many different images? I am currently
reading the third book in F. Paul Wilson's Adversary Cycle (the first
book in the series is THE KEEP), and it turns out that Wilson has his
own website and that he still puts out books regularly. His central
website is . . .
http://www.siue.edu/~kcole/f.paul/f.paul.html

-- Steven Feldman 
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| 'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence' -- Me |
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From: 
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Date:  Mon Jun 8, 1998  2:19
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Subject:  Remote Viewing Live




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Hey Steven (and rest of list),

I suppose we'd chat about this fact about 18 or so weeks down the road with
the D:Live discussions , but as it turns out there were almost no
instances of 'Remote Viewing' being played live, at least according to
livetapes. It was never played in its entirety on any of the 1980-83
livetapes that I've heard; at a few shows though--Berlin August '81 (the
one-off Reichstag concert) and the Australia '82 shows--they used a tiny
bit of RV (under 2 minutes) as a bridge between themes.

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Date:  Mon Jun 8, 1998  3:15
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Subject:  live tapes sought!! please help




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dreamers
I'm looking for the following td live tapes, if you have any please contact
me OFF-LIST (please don't just say, 'oh someone else will' or 'I'm to busy,
tired, lazy, whatever, etc.... ' please just contact me to arrange a trade
or whatever)
thanks
lars 

10.29.82 Glasgow 92 min
3.14.86 Manchester 114 min (complete version only)
3.24.86 Brighton 105 min
6.7.86 Phoenix/Mesa (??) (**I will pay a reward for this tape)
But not just 'Samba Hotel' from Alien Air music 
9.3.88 Quebec City 90 min
9.6.88 Boston 109 min (the real concert, NOT Spherical Harmonics)
9.10.88 Philadelphia 116 min
9.15.88 Miami 91 min
9.24.88 Berkeley 105 min
9.28.88 Vancouver 113 min
10.25.90 Worthing 117 min
10.31.90 Edinburgh 70 min
11.2.90 Bradford 115 min
11.3.90 Wolverhampton 119 min
11.4.90 Oxford 84 min
10.8.92 Boston (w/interview) 135 min
10.10.92 Philadelphia 120 min
10.29.92 Scottsdale ?? (reward offered)
.93 OST: The Switch (TV) ??min 
.96 OST: Memphis PD: War on the Streets (TV) ??min (video also sought!!)
4.9.97 Vienna 
4.10.97 Stuttgart
4.17.97 Hannover
4.18.97 Frankfurt / Neu-Isenberg (audience version only: NOT from video;
not from webcast)
4.19.97 Brussels (not from video)
4.22.97 Budapest
4.24.97 Prague
6.13.97 Warsaw (complete show only, NOT FM broadcast)
10.29.97 Bristol
11.1.97 Glasgow (digital source preferred)
11.2.97 Leeds
11.3.97 Birmingham


	




From: 
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Date:  Mon Jun 8, 1998  3:26
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Subject:  Re: Flashpoint




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>Really-From: 'Stuart Judd' 
>>-----Original Message-----
>From: tadream mailing list 
>To: tadream@c... 
>Date: 07 June 1998 17:32
>Subject: Flashpoint
>
>>Really-From: Steve Jenkins 
>>
>Heavy Metal Records had the exclusive rights for issue of the S/T in 
>the UK. Look out for the CD on HMI, very few made were playable and
those that 
>did play are worth some cash now.
>
>Stuart Judd
>
>

I have an original CD of FLASHPOINT on the Heavy Metal label and it plays
just fine. How much do you estimate it is really worth? Also, anyone
have a realiable estimate on how much the '70/90' cd is worth (400 copies
were made only)?


- Matt

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Date:  Mon Jun 8, 1998  3:21
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Subject:  DREAM DICE BOX SET




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Hi guys! How many of you besides me are willing to admit to ordering a box
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From: 
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Date:  Mon Jun 8, 1998  3:28
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Subject:  70/90 CD




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Hi Matt. I have a copy of 70/90 on the burping cow label. Is this the same one
you are asking about? Rick.

	




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Date:  Mon Jun 8, 1998  3:28
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Subject:  Re: Goblins club




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At 06:37 PM 6/7/98 -0100, you wrote:
>Really-From: Rainer Rutka 
>
>On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:
>
>> I'm just about opposite of that, I love Goblin's Club and find it
>> much more interesting musically than Rockoon, Rockoon is probably the
>> only TD CD I cannot listen to all the way through

>I agree 100% with Scott ! GC is a killer. IMO the best TD record of
>the 90ies. Very good while driving in your car on a long 'Autobahn'.

>Hear it LOUD ! No problem if Edgar and Co. make more records like GC
>the next 10 years. 

Just to reiterate for any newcomers out there who might get the wrong
impression, most Tangerine Dream fans consider Goblin's Club total shit.
If you love GC, then I respect that, just as I ask people to respect my
sexuality...

Morgan
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Date:  Sun Jun 7, 1998  8:37
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Subject:  D:Live - Here're my thoughts




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Really-From: Aured Azhallein Rancuel 


Well, here are my thoughts on the pieces I've heard for this weeks
discussion, just so you know where I'm coming from I've only been
a TD addict for the past year (exactly one year come June 13th), I got
started with their 90's material but greatly enjoy their older stuff
also.


>The Ones: Lady Greengrass/Love of Mine 
I'm not much of a fan of 60's/70's music but I've heard my fill on
road trips over the years with my parents so to me these seem pretty
typical of the genre, interesting but nothing I'd listen to regularly.

>Ultima Thule Part 1/Part 2
definately interesting pieces, a little chaotic sounding but enjoyable
IMO, I prefer part two as there are less drums to get in the way of
that horn sounding intrument.

>Berlin (broadcast) (UT outtake) 
Why is this called an UT outtake!?!? sounds more like something that
would be found on Zeit with how mellow/cold this is.

>Ossiach (Welt-Musik Festival) 'Ozillator Planet Konzert' 
The first time I listened to this piece I found it as unlistenable
as the intro to Ponts de Ce but after a few weeks of listening to
the concerts from 75-76 I don't seem to find this song annoying anymore,
boring and slow moving but not really annoying.

> Unknown location - live 35 min. (SB)
This piece is probably my favorite from the pre-1974 stuff I've heard.
It reminds me of some of the '76 concerts I've heard for some reason...
Very good IMO, very listenable.

>Berlin (RIAS FM) 'Klangcollage'
This piece could fit very well on Zeit, the first bit sounds very much
like Nebulous Dawn and the song really starts to pick up a nice rhythm
near the end just before it's interupted by the announcer and ends!!!
If the middle 10 minutes were cut shorter and there was more of that
nice rhythmic section this would be an awesome song :-)

>OST: Geradeaus bis zum Morgen 
A bit different to hear guitar on something from this period,
interesting but a little slow (like most everything from period)

> Ponts de Ce 
I have only listened through the first half of this once and no matter
how many times I try I cannot listen to the random effects that start
this piece out for more than ten minutes!! The end half gets quite
nice however, sounding very much like Zeit with a little added rhythm.

>Berlin (RIAS FM) 
This piece is about as good as the Unknown location. It starts off
really nice, again the sounds used remind me of some of the '76 
concerts, the complexity of the overlaid sounds is nice and the buildup
to the chaotic noisy bit is very nice, afterwards it starts sounding
like Zeit, slow/cold textures.


Well, there's my thoughts on this period.


-Scott
np: '73 Berlin (Rias FM) 'Deutsch Rock - Music Portraits...'

	




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Date:  Mon Jun 8, 1998  4:51
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Subject:  Re: Box sets, misc.




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I've go the following Box Sets, which are all fun:

Electronic Orgy (intriguing)

Tangents (beautifully done, ranking among my favorites)

And doubles:

Tangerine Dream, The Analog Space Years, 1969-1973 (cosmic, man)

Beyond the Storm (Froese)

Dice would be a big purchase, too big.

Tangents I think was about $50 US at Best Buy, for 5 CDs and a great
package.

Orgy was $60 at a collector shop, not so nice package, but fun to listen to.

I've got half of the Babylon 5 episodic CD's. Being a major fan of B-5, that
turned me on the Franke, which led to Ricochet, etc. The more familiar I get
with Franke, the better I can hear him in the TD material. The episodics are
quite different from TD, what with the full orchestra and all. Franke is
also responsible for many of the other audio effects on B-5, such as the
native tongue of Ambassador Kosh, etc.

Jim Horecka, AIA


	




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Date:  Mon Jun 8, 1998  5:00
am
Subject:  updated D:LIVE! & ETC. Schedule




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dreamers
sorry for the delay in posting this but I haven't had the time to finish it
up. This is an updated schedule for the discussion with dates added and
the tape tree correlation... just follow the numbers ;-)
happy listening
lars

D:Live! & Etc. final discussion schedule
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Abbreviations and Format: 
Month.Day.Year City (Venue) Time (Medium of original source) 
Original sources: Au = audience; SB = soundboard; FM, TV = broadcast; Vid.
= Video; Media (self-explanatory?): MC = cassette tape; LP -= vinyl; CD;
CDR; Vid = video; LD (laser disc)
**Tape tree key [#.#.A/B] = [tree#.tape#.side A/B]
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Phase I: The Highly Improvisational Years (1970-1981)
Part A: The Ones & 'The Pink Years': 1967 & 1970 -1973
June 7 / Week 1: All known dates 1967 & 1970-73:
.67 The Ones: Lady Greengrass/Love of Mine
Official Release: 1967 (Starclub 7') [1.3A]
.70 Berlin (broadcast) 15 min (FM)
.71 Ultima Thule Part 1/Part 2 [1.3A]
Official Release: 1971 (Ohr 7')
.71 Berlin (broadcast) (UT outtake) 9 min. (FM) [1.1A]
6.?.71 Ossiach (Welt-Musik Festival) 'Ozillator Planet Konzert' 
Official Release: Ossiach Live 3LP (BASF, 1971)
Boots: Mystery Tracks I (CD), Rare Trax I CDR),
Ossiach Live (CD) [1.3A]
Tapes: 8 min. (Au)
6.19.71 Frankfurt (Frankfurt University) 45 min. (FM)
.72/.73? Unknown location - live 35 min. (SB) [1.1A]
.72 Berlin (RIAS FM) 'Klangcollage' show 20 min. (FM) [1.3B]
4.25.72 OST: Geradeaus bis zum Morgen 13 min. (TV) [1.3B]
11.25.72 Cologne (WDR-FM 'Klangwald') 45 min. (FM)
5.25.73 Ponts de Ce 84 min. (Au) [1.2]
8.21.73 OST: Ein fuer alle mal 38 min. (TV) 
11.29.73 Berlin (RIAS FM) 45 min. (FM) [1.1B] 
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I.B: 1974 
June 14 / Week 2: Miscellaneous 1974 Dates
4.9.74 London (BBC w/ John Peel) 'Mysterious Semblance...' (FM)
[1.3B]
'Oedipus Tyrannos' (incorporates 3 dates)
Official release: Track 'Overture' on 'V'
(Virgin compilation, 1975) -- excerpt [1.3A]
Boots: Festival (8.18.74 Au)
Tapes: 8.18.74 Chichester (Festival Theatre) 31 min. (Au)
8.22.74 London (BBC Studios) 23 min. (FM) [2.2B]
8.29.74 London (BBC Studios) 24 min. (FM);
digitally enhanced MC/DAT/CDR version exists also
10.13.74 Berlin (Nationalgalerie) 55 min. (FM)
Part 1: 'Metamusik Festival' (36 min.);
Part 2: 'Conversations' (19 min.)
12.13.74 Reims (Cathedral) 85 min (Au)
Boots: Live! Improvised! (2CD) [2.3]
Riems Cathedral (LP)
Tapes: 65 min. (FM) Broadcast 
27 min. (Au) (2nd source encores)
17 min. (FM) (Broadcast Interview & Encore) [2.2B]
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June 21 / Week 3: 1974 UK Tour, all tapes
10.29.74 Sheffield (City Hall) 
Boots: TD 74-78 (MC) -- excerpt
Tapes: 44min. (Au)
10.30.74 Birmingham (Town Hall) 90 min. (Au)
11.2.74 Liverpool (Liverpool Stadium) 90 min. (Au)
11.20.74 Glasgow (Kelvin Hall) 85 min. (Au)
11.26.74 Bradford (St. George's Hall) 51 min. (Au)
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I.C 1975
Section 1: 1975 Australian tour & Misc. 1975 Dates
June 28 / Week 4: 1975 Australian Tour, all tapes & 4.2.75 London
3.13.75 Melbourne (Dallas Brooks Hall) 84 min. (Au)
3.25.75 Adelaide (Festival Hall) 87 min. (Au)
4.2.75 London (Royal Albert Hall)
Boots: Coefficient of Aural Expansion I + II (CD+CDR)
[2.1-2]
Absolutely Hypnotized -- excerpt
Phaedream -- excerpt
Concentrical Progression 2CDRs
Tapes: 115 min. (FM)
July 5 / Week 5: Orange Festival & Reims 1975
8.16.75 Orange (Festival Pop d'Orange, Theatre Antique
et Gymnase)
Boots: Orange Festival (LP + 7')
A Dream Unbound (LP + 7')
Seekers of Dreams (LP + 7')
Festival (MC) excerpt
Oranges from France (CDR)
Tapes: 59 min. (Au) [3.1]
9.23.75 Reims (Opera House) 85 min. (Au) [3.2]
------------------------------------------------
Section 3: 1975 UK Tour
July 12 / Week 6: 1975 UK Tour, Part 1
10.4.75 Coventry (Cathedral) 96 min. (Au)
10.5.75 Bristol (Colston Hall) 70 min. (Au)
10.12.75 Birmingham (Town Hall) 109 min. (Au)
10.16.75 Liverpool (Cathedral) 100 min (Au) [3.1B + 3.3]
July 19 / Week 7: 1975 UK Tour, Part 2
10.17.75 Glasgow (City Hall) 85 min. (Au)
10.20.75 York (Minster) 84 min (Au)
10.22.75 London (Olympia) 31 min. (Au)
10.23.75 Croyden (Fairfield Hall) 63 min. (Au)
-------------------------------------------------------------
I.D: 1976
Section I: Miscellaneous 1976 Dates
July 26 / Week 8: Miscellaneous 1976 Dates, part 1
.76 unknown concert 33 min. (Au)
1.23.76 Paris (Palais du Sport) 107 min. (Au)
2.9.76 Brussels (Jansen University)
Boots: Danger Live [Pt. 1] (CD)
Danger Live Pt. 2 (CDR)
Tapes: 109 min (Au) 4.1 +4.3B
2.11.76 Amsterdam RAI Congresscentrum 91 min. (Au)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
August 2 / Week 9: Miscellaneous 1976 Dates, part 2
5.23.76 Germany (broadcast) 45 min. (TV)
6.5.76 Manchester (Free Trade Hall) 112 min. (Au)
6.7.76 London (Royal Albert Hall)
Boots: Three Tier Dream (3CDs) CD1
Tapes: 103 min (Au)
6.10.76 Brighton (The Dome) 85 min. (Au)
6.27.76 Berlin (Philharmonic, SFB-Radio)
Boots: Danger Live Pt. (2CDR)
The Dream Is Not Always The Same (CDR)
Tapes: 33 min. (FM) 4.3A
.76 (EF) Maroubra Bay (backwards mix) [8-9.5A]
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Section 2: 1976 European Tour 
Official Release: Ricochet (excerpts various concerts)
August 9 / Week 10: 1976 European Tour, part 1
10.20.76 Hannover (Stadthalle) 107min. (Au)
11.8.76 Nottingham (Usher Hall) 90 min. (Au)
Boots: Me-Rad (part 1)
Collected Endings CD (Part 2)
11.13.76 Leeds (University) 110 min. (Au)
11.16.76 Brussels (L'Ancienne Belgigue)
Boots: Danger Live Pt. (2CDR) -- excerpt
Tapes: 91 min. (Au)
10.21.76 Dusseldorf (Philipshalle) 74 min (Au)
10.27.76 Munich (Circus Krone Bau) 91 min. (Au)
August 16 / Week 11: 1976 European Tour, part 2
11.3.76 Edinburgh (Odeon) ) 83 min. (Au)
11.9.76 Portsmouth (Guild Hall) 90 min. (Au)
11.14.76 Croydon (Fairfield Hall) 75 min. (Au)
11.15.76 Manchester (Free Trade Center) 58 min. (Au)
11.22.76 Paris (Palais du Sport) 109 min (Au) [4.2 + 4.3B]
11.26.76 Barcelona (Nuevo Pabellon de Barcelona) 91 min. (Au)
11.28.76 Toulouse (Centre Culturel) 89 min. (Au)
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I.E: 1977 North American Tour (Stratosfear)
Official Releases: Encore (ex: Washington DC, Santa Monica,
70-80 [5.4B], & singles [inc. Hobo March 1.3A])
Augst 23 / Week 12: 1977 North American Tour, part 1
3.29.77 Milwaukee (Riverside Theatre) 80 min. (Au)
3.31.77 Detroit (Ford Auditorium) 
Boots: Acoustic LSD (CD)
Emerald Beyond (LP);
Edison's Last Playoff? (LP)
Tapes: 103 min. (Au) [5.1 +5.4A]
4.2.77 Cleveland (Music Hall)
Boot: US Tour 1977 (2LP)
Tapes: 82min (Au)
4.4.77 Washington DC (Lisner Auditorium)
Boot: (rumored)
Tapes: 1st source 110 min. (FM) [5.2 + 5.4A]
2nd source 101 min. (FM) 
4.5.77 New York (Avery Fisher Hall) 130 minutes (Au)
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August 30 / Week 13: 1977 North American Tour, part 2 + 1977 Misc
4.10.77 Montreal (Place des Arts & CHOM-FM)
Boots: Patrolling Space Borders
Laserium
Transformations -- excerpt
Tangerine Dream Live-at the Place des Arts 
Tapes: 109 min. (FM) [5.3 + 5.4A]
4.11.77 Quebec City (Hilton Convention Center) 97 min. (Au)
4.21.77 Seattle (Paramount Theater)
Boots: Babylon's Strange
Netz-Lautstarke
Babylon's Sequenced
Fotzenslecker
Tapes: 88 min. (Au)
4.26.77 Santa Monica (Santa Monica Civic Auditorium) 109 min. (Au)
7.12.77 Los Angeles (Greek Theatre) 91 min. (Au) [5.5]
8.4.77 (?) Toronto (Convocation Hall) 91 min. (Au)
--> 1977 Misc.
.77 OST: Pauline et l'ordinateur 10 min. (Vid) MC/7- [5.4B]
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I.F: 1978 European Tour (Cyclone)
September 6 / Week 14: 1978 Tour; all dates
2.19.78 Berlin (Eissporthalle) 
Boots: Don't Walk, Dream Now (2LP)
[2CDR? rumored]
Tapes: 135 min. (Au) [6-7.3 + 6-7.4B]
2.24.78 Hamburg (Audimax)
Boots: TD 74-78 (MC) -- excerpt
Tapes: 45 min. (Au) [6-7.4A]
2.25.78 Dusseldorf (Philipshalle) 90 min. (Au)
3.1.78 Nantes (Palais de la Beaujoire) 120 min. (Au)
3.12.78 Valencia (Pabellon Deportiro Marcol) 35 min. (Au)
3.13.78 Barcelona (Nueva Pabellon de Barcelona) 50 min. (Au)
3.23.78 Newcastle (City Hall) 80 min. (Au)
3.24.78 Glasgow (Apollo City Hall) 113min. (Au)
3.25.78 Manchester (Apollo City Hall) 60 min (Au)
3.26.78 Liverpool (Empire) 110 min. (Au)
3.28.78 London (Hammersmith Odeon) 100 min. (Au)
.79 OST:Kneuss 6-7.2B
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I.G: 1980
Section 1 East Berlin
September 13 / Week 15: 1.31.80 E.Berlin (Palast der Republik)1st+2nd shows
Official releases: Quichotte
Pergamon
Boots: Staatgrenze West (LP)
White Cloths (2MC)
The Dream Is Not Always The Same (CDR) -- excerpt
Beyond the Wall (CDR)
[NB: Don Quixote (LP) is a pirate]
Tapes: Afternoon show 71 min (FM + Au?) [6-7.1]
Evening show 100 min (FM) [6-7.5 + 6-7.2A]
.80 70-80 solo tracks [5.4B]
-----------------------------------
Section 2: 1980 European tour
September 20 / Week 16: 1980 European Tour Dates, Part 1
Official releases: .86 Horns of Doom [1.3A]
10.13.80 Brussels (Cirque Royale)
Boots: Nostrasgram (CDR) 
Tapes: 120 min. (Au) [8-9.1 + 8-9.5A]
10.15.80 Dusseldorf (Philipshalle) 107 min. (Au)
10.16.80 Hamburg (Congress Center) 110 min. (Au)
10.17.80 Luxembourg (Centre Sportif) 46 min. (Au)
10.20.80 Unknown venue 86 min. (Au)
10.23.80 Bologna (Palasport) 110 min. (Au)
11.1.80 Dublin (National Stadium) 110 min. (Au)
11.2.80 Newcastle (City Hall) 113 min. (Au)
11.5.80 Preston (Guild Hall) 
Boots: Soundtrack for Fantasy (CD)
Undulation (LP)
Space Trucking (LP)
Tapes: 116 min. (Au)
September 27 / Week 17: 1980 European Tour Dates, Part 2 & 2 US Concerts
11.6.80 Derby (Assembly Rooms) 108 min. (Au)
11.7.80 Birmingham (Odeon) 112 min. (Au)
11.8.80 Manchester (Apollo) 90 min. (Au)
11.9.80 London (Victoria Apollo) 109 min. (Au)
11.10.80 London (Victoria Apollo) 110 min. (Au)
11.12.80 Oxford (New Theatre) 106 min. (Au)
11.15.80 Liverpool (Royal Court) 110 min. (Au)
11.20.80 San Francisco (Warfield Theater) 37 min. (Au-->FM)
11.22.80 Santa Monica (Civic Auditorium) 105 min. (Au) [8-9.2+5B]
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I.H: 1981
Section 1: 1981 European Tour
Ocober 4 / Week 18: 1981 European Tour, Part 1
1.21.81 Aachen (Eurogress) 114min. (Au)
1.24.81 Hannover (Eilenriedehalle) 105 min. (Au)
1.26.81 Berlin (Internationales Congress Centrum) 
Boots: (Event Horizon)
Tapes: 110 min. (Au) [8-9.3 + 8-9.5B]
1.30.81 Frankfurt (Jahrhunderthalle) 110 min. (Au)
2.2.81 Paris (Bataclan Palace) 110 min. (Au) 
October 11 / Week 19: 1981 European Tour, part 2 (Italian shows)
2.6.81 Rome (Palasport) 86 min. (Au)
2.7.81 Cantu (Palasport Piarelli)
Boots: Absolutely Hypnotized - excerpt
Fragments? - excerpt
Tapes: 105 min. (Au) 
2.??.81 Cucciago (?) 84 min. (Au)
2.8.81 Florence (Apollo Theatre) 105 min. (Au) 1st show 
2.8.81 Florence (Apollo Theatre) 112 min. (Au) 2nd Show 
5.??.81 Rome (RAI-1) 28 min. (TV)
-----------------------------------------
Section 2: 1981 UK Tour (Exit)
October 18 / Week 20: 1981 UK Tour, part 1
10.??.81 Two sound checks from UK tour 46 min. (Au) [8-9.6]
10.15.81 Oxford (New Theatre) 109 min. (Au)
10.16.81 Portsmouth (Guild Hall) 90 min. (Au)
10.17.81 Brighton (Brighton Dome) 90 min. (Au)
10.20.81 London (Hammersmith Odeon)
Boots: Three Tier Dream (3CDs) CD2
Tapes: 111min. (Au)
10.22.81 Sheffield (City Hall) 88 min. (Au)
October 25 / Week 21: 1981 UK Tour, part 2
10.24.81 Manchester (Apollo Theatre) 112 min. (Au)
10.25.81 Newcastle (City Hall)
Boots: Dreamtime (CDR)
Space & Spheres (LP)
Space Trucking (LP)
Tapes: 110 min. (Au) [8-9.4]
10.26.81 Edinburgh (Usher Hall) 112 min. (Au)
10.27.81 Glasgow (Apollo City Hall) 90 min. (Au)
10.28.81 Preston (Guild Hall) 119 min. (Au)
10.29.81 Liverpool (Royal Court) 114 min. (Au)
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Section 3: Misc 1981 dates
November 1 / Week 22: .81 OST: Strange Behavior 41 min. (TV)
8.29.81 Berlin (Platz der Republik)
Boots: Tangerine Dream Live (MC)
Tapes: 102 min (Au)
11.11.81 Gelsenkirchen (WDR-FM) 24 min. (FM)
12.9.81 Munich (Circus Krone 'Klassic-Rock-Nacht') 31 min. (TV)
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Phase II, Increasing Standardization of Tour Programs
Part A: 1982
Section 1: Australian Tour 
November 8 / Week 23: All dates from 1982 Australian Tour (White Eagle)
2.22.82 Sydney (Regent Theatre) 
Boots: Leprous Appearance on a Wednesday (LP) 
Dreaming (CD) 
Outback Voices (CDR)
Tapes: 120 min. (FM) [10-11.6 + 10-11.7A]
3.1.82 Melbourne (Dallas Brooks Hall) 
Boots: Raetikon CD 
Tapes: 70 min. (Au)
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Section 2: Logotypes & 1982 Misc Material
November 15 / Week 24: .82 Berlin (Polygon Studios?) 
or 11.15.82 Berlin (International Congress Centrum? ) 
Boots: Logostypes (CDR) [10-11.2]
Tapes: 85 min. (studio master tape) [10-11.2 excerpt] 
.82 OST: Tatort: Das Maedchen ... (Virgin 7' & 12') [8-9.5A]
.82 OST: [Codename] The Soldier (Vid) [10-11.1]
.82 OST: Von Richern & Sympathisanten 5 min. (Vid)
---------------------------------------------
Section 3: European tour (White Eagle)
November 22 / Week 25: 1982 European Tour, part 1
10.17.82 Vienna (Kurhalle Oberlaa-- Konzerthaus) 104 min. (Au)
10.19.82 Budapest (Sports Hall) 84 min. (Au) 1st show 
10.19.82 Budapest (Sports Hall) 84 min. (Au) 2nd show
10.27.82 Frankfurt (Alte Oper) 105 min. (Au)
10.??.82 Unknown (UK?); 90 min. (SB)
10.29.82 Glasgow (Apollo City Hall) 92 min. (Au)
10.30.82 Derby (Assembly Rooms) 138 min. (Au)
10.31.82 Croyden (Fairfield Hall) 104 min. (Au)
11.1.82 Manchester (Apollo Theatre) 110 min. (Au)
11.2.82 Bristol (Colston Hall) 90 min. (Au)
November 29 / Week 26: 1982 European Tour, part 2
11.3.82 Oxford (Apollo City Hall) 103 min. (Au)
11.4.82 Sheffield (City Hall) 111 min. (Au)
11.5.82 Birmingham (Town Hall) 135min. (Au)
11.6.82 London (Dominion)
Official release: Logos
Tapes: 118 min. (Au) [10-11.3 + .4A]
sound check 45 min. (Au) [10-11.4B]
11.8.82 Brussels (Vrije University) 108 min. (Au)
11.10.82 Mannheim (Rosengarten) 89min. (Au)
11.11.82 Dusseldorf (Phillipshalle) 110 min. (Au)
11.12.82 Munich (Circus Krone Bau) 111 min. (Au)
11.15.82 Berlin (Internationales Congres Centrum) 
Boots: The Dream Is Not Always The Same (CDR) -- excerpt
Tapes: 110 min. (Au)
11.19.82 Budapest (Sportcsarnok) 44 min. (Au)
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II.B 1983-1985
December 6 / Week 27: Fassbinder Homage & 1983 Japanese tour
6.11.83 Frankfurt (Alte Oper) R.W. Fassbinder Memorial Concert
Boots: Fassbinder Homage EP (30 min.)
Tapes 36 min (Au)
6.23.83 Tokyo (Kohseinenkin Hall) 109 min. (Au)
6.25.83 Tokyo (Nakano Sun Plaza Hall) 104 min. (Au)
6.28.83 Osaka (Festival Hall) 110 min. (Au)
December 13 / Week 28: 1983: Dresden, Warsaw, & Athens
11.26.83 Dresden (Hygienemuseum) 115 min. (Au) [12-13.1+.2A]
12.10.83 Warsaw (Ice Stadium) [8-9.sup I]
12.10.83 Warsaw (Ice Stadium) [8-9.sup II]
Official release: Poland 2LP
Tapes: 86 min. (Au) 1st show
90 min. (FM) 2nd show
6.??.84 Athens (Lycabettus Theater) 91min. (TV)
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December 20 / Week 29: Misc. Material 1983-86
.83 OST:Tatort: Miriam (Daydream/Moorland, Virgin 7') [10-11.1B]
.83 OST: Heisser Schnee / Niege Brulante 3 min. (Vid)
.83 OST: The Keep (all releases) [12-13.4 + .5 + .6 + 12-13 sup. I]
.84 OST: Streethawk 150 min. (Vid)
.84 OST: Vision Quest / Crazy for You 17 min. [6-7.2A]
(unreleased material from session/demo tape)
.85 OST: Forbidden 26 min. (Vid) [10-11.5B]
.85 OST: Legend (unreleased material) (FM) [14-15.7]
.85 OST: Red Heat 20 min. (Vid) [10-11.5B]
.86 OST: Zoning (*original* soundtrack music only) 22 min. (Vid) 
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II.C 1986 
Section 1, European tour 
December 27 / Week 30: 1986 European Tour
3.9.86 Leicester (De Montford Hall) 93 min. (Au)
3.10.86 Sheffield (City Hall) 110 min. (Au)
3.11.86 Newcastle (City Hall) 98 min. (Au)
3.12.86 Edinburgh (Playhouse) 122 min. (Au)
3.13.86 Preston (Guild Hall) 107 min. (Au)
3.14.86 Manchester (Apollo Theatre) 114 min. (Au)
3.16.86 Croyden (Fairfield Hall) 112 min. (Au) 
3.17.86 Birmingham (Odeon) 110 min. (FM)
3.18.86 Hanley (Victoria Hall) 110 min. (Au)
3.19.86 Liverpool (Royal Court) 106 min. (Au)
3.20.86 Bradford (Saint Georges Hall) 120 min. (Au)
3.21.86 Harrogate (The Centre) 110min (Au)
3.22.86 Nottingham (Royal Court Hall) 111 min. (Au)
3.23.86 Lincoln (Ritz Theatre) 101 min. (Au)
3.24.86 Brighton (The Dome) 105 min. (Au)
3.26.86 Oxford (Apollo Theatre) 107 min. (Au)
January 3 1999 / Week 31: The Boots: London, Cologne, & Paris
3.27.86 London (Hammersmith Odeon)
Boots: The Nameless is the Origin (LP) 
Timeless Space (2LP)
Tapes: 105 min. (Au)
3.29.86 Cologne (Sendesaal & WDR-FM 'Nachtmusic')
Boots: Relativity (LP)
Nachtmusik (CDR)
Tapes: 103 min. (FM) [12-13.7]
3.31.86 Paris (Olympique) 
Boots: Parisian Dreams (LP) 
Parisian Dreams Too (LP) 
Technikon (LP)
3 Tier Dream (part 1) (CD)
3 Tier Dream On (part 2) (CD)
Paris Edge (CDR)
Tapes: 76 min. (FM) [12-13.3]
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Section 2, 1986 North American Tour
January 10 / Week 32: 1986 North American Tour
5.30.86 Vancouver BC (Expo ‘86 Theatre) 105 min. (Au) [14-15.1+.4A]
5.31.86 Seattle (Paramount Theatre) 120 min. (Au)
6.1.86 Portland (Arlene Schnitzler Auditorium) 111 min. (Au)
6.??.86 Unknown location 60 min. (Au) 'mystery concert'
6.3.86 San Francisco (Warfield Theater) 103 min. (Au)
6.5.86 Los Angeles (Universal City Ampitheatre) 
Boots: Alien Air Music (CDR) excerpt only 
Tapes: 112 min. (Au)
6.7.86 Mesa (Mesa Amphitheatre) 5 min. (SB)
Boots: Alien Air Music (CDR) excerpt only 
6.11.86 Denver (Paramount Theater) 90min (Au)
6.13.86 Kansas City (Bonner Springs Sandstone
Ampitheatre)109min.(Vid)
6.15.86 Chicago (Riviera Theater) 84 min (Au)
6.17.86 Milwaukee (Oriental Theater) 105 min. (Au)
6.19.86 Montreal (Place des Arts) 111 min. (Au)
6.20.86 Ottawa (National Arts Center) 111 min. (Au)
6.21.86 Toronto (Massey Hall) 
Boots: Undercover Dreams 2LP
Undercover Dreams (MC)
Tapes: 117 min. (Au) [14-15.3 + .4B]
6.23.86 Rochester (Meadowbrooks Music Festival) 113 min. (Au)
6.24.86 Cleveland (Music Hall) 100 min. (Au)
6.25.86 Philadelphia (Tower Theater) 104 min. (Au)
6.26.86 Boston (Orpheum Theater) 90 min (Au)
6.27.86 Providence (Performing Arts Center) 110 min.
6.28.86 New York (The Beacon Theater) 120 min. (Au)
6.29.86 Washington DC (Warner Theater) 120 min. (Au)
January 17 / Week 33: Sonambulistic Imagery & Live Miles
6.6.86 Irvine / Laguna Hills (Irvine Meadows Ampitheater) 
Boots: Sonambulistic Imagery (2CD)
Tapes: 109 min (Au)
6.8.86 Albuquerque (Kiva Convention Center) 
Official Release (ha!): Live Miles
Boots: Alien Air Music (CDR) excerpt only 
Tapes: 106 min. (Au) MC [14-15.2 + 14-15.4A]
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II.D 1987
January 24 / Week 34: Misc. Material
.87 A Time for Heroes (Orpheum 12' & CD5) [14-15.4A]
.87 OST: Canyon Dreams (session tape) 90 min. (SB) [14-15.6B]
.87 OST: City of Shadows / Nightmare City 69 min. (TV) 
.87 OST: Game of Love/Tonight's the Night 17 min. (TV)
.87 OST: Red Nights 44 min. (Vid) [10-11.5A]
,87 OST: Shy People [14-15.4A]
January 31 / Week 35: The Berlin Show 
8.1.87 Berlin (Reichstag)(rebroadcasts+interviews: 8.23.87 &
10.22.87)
Official release: Live Miles
Boots: Anarktis (CD) part 1 [14-15.5 + .6A]
20th Century Seranades (CD) part 2 
Tapes: 138 min (FM transcription tapes?)
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Phase III; The DAT Years (low variability of tour program, little or no
improvisation)
Part A: 1988 North American Tour (Optical Race)
February 7 / Week 36: 1988 N. American Tour, all dates
8-9.??.88 unknown location 5 min. (SB)
'House of the Rising Sun'
Boots: Alien Air Music (CDR) 
Live in the USA 7'
8.25.88 Chicago(Hoffman Estates Poplar Creek Music
Theater)110min.(Au)
8.26.88 Milwaukee (Riverside Theater) 110min. (Au)
8.28.88 Columbus (Ohio Theater) 
Boots: Ardem-O CD (parts 1-2)
Collected Endings (part 3)
Tapes: 97 min. (Au)
8.30.88 Cleveland (Nautica Stage) 110 min. (Au)
8.31.88 Detroit (Pine Knob Theatre) 106 min. (Au)
9.1.88 Toronto (Massey Hall) 122 min. (Au)
9.2.88 Montreal (La Ronde) 105 min. (Au)
9.3.88 Quebec City (L'Agora) 110 min. (Au)
9.6.88 Boston (Somerville Theater) 109 min. (Au) 
9.7.88 New York (Radio City Music Hall) 
Boots: Sounds & Effects (excerpt)
Tapes: 113 min. (Au)
9.8.88 Washington DC (Kennedy Center) 120 min. (Au) [16-17.2 +.3B]
9.9.88 New Haven (Palace Center) (not Boston ;-)
Boots: Spherical Harmonics 1 + 2
Tapes: 115 min. (SB?) [16-17.1 + .1A]
9.10.88 Philadelphia (Tower Theater) 116 min. (Au)
9.14.88 Sarasota (Van Wezel Audiotorium) 94 min. (Au)
9.15.88 Miami (Cameo Theater) 91 min. (Au)
9.16.88 New Orleans (McAlistair Auditorium) 110 min. (Au)
9.18.88 Dallas (Starplex Amphitheater) 115 min. (Au)
9.21.88 San Diego (Auditorium) 110 min. (Au)
9.22.88 Los Angeles (Wiltern Theater) 110 min. (Au)
9.23.88 Los Angeles (Wiltern Theater) 110 min. (Au)
9.24.88 Berkeley (Berkeley Community Theater) 105 min. (Au)
9.27.88 Seattle (Paramount Theatre) 120 min. (Au)
9.28.88 Vancouver (Queen Elizabeth Hall) 113 min. (Au)
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III.B 1989-1991 Misc. Material
Section 1: Misc. & The 1990 Berlin Show
Februrary 14 / Week 37: 3.??.89 House of the Rising Sun (Reflex single)
.89 Lost Tale (KLEM CD)
2.23.89 Germany (Schwingungen) 90 min. (FM)
.90 OST: Rainbow Drive 21 min (Vid) [18.2B]
.90 Mandala [excerpt] (2.1.98 Berline Radio Eins) (FM) 
2.20.90 Berlin (Werner-Seelenbinder Halle) 106 min. (FM)
[16-17.4+.7A]
.91 OST: Metropole Berlin 19 min. (TV) [16-17.7B]
.91 OST: Tatort: Bis zum Hals im Dreck 40 min. (TV) [16-17.7B]
Official release: I Just Want to Live/One Night in
Medina(7',CD5)
.91 OST: The Man Inside [16-17.8A]
.91 OST: Rumpelstiltskin [16-17.8B]
-----------------------------------------------------
Section 2: 1990 UK Tour (Melrose)
February 21 / Week 38: 1990 UK Tour, all dates 
10.25.90 Worthing (Assembly Hall) 117 min. (Au)
10.26.90 London (Hammersmith Odeon) 118 min. (Au)
10.27.90 London (Hammersmith Odeon) 104 min (Au)
10.28.90 Manchester (Apollo Theatre) 122 min. (Au)
10.29.90 Nottingham (Royal Center) 110 min. (Au)
10.30.90 Sheffield (City Hall) 100 min. (Au)
10.31.90 Edinburgh (Playhouse) 70 min. (Au)
11.2.90 Bradford (St. George's Hall) 115 min. (Au)
11.3.90 Wolverhampton (Civic Hall) 119 min. (Au)
11.4.90 Oxford (Apollo City Hall) 84 min. (Au) 
11.6.90 Bristol (Colston Hall) 
Boots: Bicycle Race (LP)
'Singet denn ...' (LP)
In den Gaerten Pharaos CD
(aka: Pharaos Garden, Realm of Nightmares)
Antarktis (CD) -- excerpt
Persistence of Vision (3CDR) -- excerpt
Tapes: 110 min. (Au) [16-17.5 + .6 + .7A]
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III.C 1992 N. American Tour (Rockoon)
Official Releases: 220 Volt Live (CD)
Dreamtime (CD5)
3 Phase (Vid/LD)
February 28 / Week 39: 1992 North American Tour, all dates
1992 N. American Tour (unknown venue) 16 min. (Au)
Boots: Prayer of Quiet Dreams -- excerpts
10.4.92 Toronto (Music Hall) 60 min. (Au)
Boots: Dreaming on Danforth Avenue CD 
10.5.92 Montreal (Salle Wilfrid-Pelletier/Place des Arts)
120min.(Au)
10.8.92 Boston (Berklee Performing Arts Center) 135 min. (Au)
10.9.92 New York (The Beacon Theater) 120 min. (Au)
10.10.92 Philadelphia (Tower Theater) 120 min. (Au)
10.13.92 Washington DC (Lisner Auditorium) 125 min. (Au)
10.14.92 Columbus (Palace Theater) 120 min. (Au)
10.15.92 Baltimore (Shriver Hall) 120 min. (TV)
10.16.92 Highland Heights, Ohio (Front Row Theater) 120 min. (Au)
10.17.92 Chicago (Old Vic Theater) 120 min. (Au) [18.1 + .2A]
10.20.92 Detroit (Fox Theatre) 120 min. (TV)
10.28.92 San Juan Capistrano (Coach House) 120 min. (Au)
10.30.92 Los Angeles (Wiltern Theatre) 116 min. (TV)
11.01.92 Ventura (Ventura Theater) 
Boots: 1992 North American Tour 2CDR 
Tapes: 120 min. (Au) [18.3 + .4A]
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III.D 1993-1996 Misc Material
March 7 / Week 40: .93 OST: The Switch (TV) ??min
7.12.95 Los Angeles (SIR Theatre) 
'Xsess Living Magazine' premiere (CDR)
Boots: The Miramar Years (CDR)
Tapes: 45 min. (Au + Vid) [18.4B]
.96 OST: Memphis PD: War on the Streets (TV) ??min
.96 Voxel Ux [18.opt]
.94 Quasar [18.opt]
.95 Story of the Brave [18.opt]
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III.E 1996
March 14 / Week 41: 11.30.96 London (Shepherd's Bush Empire Theatre)
Boots: Persistence of Vision (3CDR)
Tapes: 35 min. (Au) (soundcheck)
153 min. (Au)
11.30.96 Shepherd's Bush CD5 [18.4A]
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III.F 1997
Section 1 1997 European Tour & Boots
March 21 / Week 42: All 1997 Continental European Tour Dates 
Official Release: 4.9.97 1997 European Tour Single [14-15.4B; 18
opt.]
?? 4.9.97 Vienna (Museumsquartier) 140 min. (Au)
?? 4.10.97 Stuttgart (Philharmonie) 140 min. (Au)
4.11.97 Bonn (Beethovenhalle) 
Boots: (rumored)
Tapes 135 min. (Au)
4.12.97 Munich (Circus Krone Bau) 140 min. (Au)
4.13.97 Erlangen (Stadthalle) 140 min. (Au)
4.15.97 Hamburg (Musikhalle) 140 min. (Au)
4.16.97 Berlin (Hochschule der Kuenste) 170 min. (Au) [19.3 + .4]
4.17.97 Hannover (Musikhalle) 140 min. (Au)
4.18.97 Frankfurt/Neu-Isenberg (Hugenottenhalle) 
Boots: Goblins Live Club Box
Tapes: 150 min (Au + Vid)
4.19.97 Brussels (Ancienne Belgique) 140 min. (Au+Vid.)
4.20.97 Amsterdam (Melkweg Max) 
Boots: A'dam Eve (2CDR) 
Tapes: 143 min. (Au) [19.1 + 19.2]
?4.22.97 Budapest (Petofi Csarnok)
4.23.97 Zabrze (Dom Muziki I Tanca) 60 min (SB)
Official release: Tournado (CD) 
Tapes: 60 min (Au) (first set) [19.5]
??4.24.97 Prague (Sky Club)
6.13.97 Warsaw (Ice Stadium) 60 min. (FM)
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Section 2: 1997 UK Tour
March 28 / Week 43: All 1997 UK Tour Dates
10.29.97 Bristol (Colston Hall) 140 min. (Au)
10.31.97 Nottingham (Usher Hall) 140 min. (Au) 
11.1.97 Glasgow (Royal Concert Hall) 140 min. (Au)
11.2.97 Leeds (Town and Country Club) 140 min. (Au)
11.3.97 Birmingham (Symphony Hall) 140 min. (Au)
11.4.97 Manchester (Apollo Theatre) 140 min. (Au)
11.6.97 London (Shepherd's Bush Empire) 140 min. (Au) [19.6 + .7]
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III.G 1998-1999 Addendum
April 4 / Week 44: All 1998 Tour Dates ?????

April 11 / Week 45: Misc. / 1999 Tour Dates???
.97 OST: Jim & Pablo: Der Meteor 12 min. [18.2B]
.97 OST: Oasis
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Really-From: Robert Grabowsky 


Hey Gang,
With the price of the Dream Dice Box set being $300 US,
for 12-14 CDs, I was wondering if Edgar and Jerome might have 
some bad habit we do not know about and they need some quick cash. (No
credit cards can be used to order)
When I bought the Klaus Schulze Historic Edition it was 10 CD's for $150
US which is $15 per disc. And the Jubilee
Edition was $350 US for 25 discs which would be $14 per disc.
So I am asking what is the deal here?

Any clues?

THE HIGHLANDER


	






    
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Subject:  Re: Dream Dice




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> Really-From: Gabe Yedid 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 4 Jun 1998, tadream mailing list wrote:
> 
> > Really-From: Sean Montgomery 
> > 
> > > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' 
> > > 
> > > > Dream Dice is a box set being offered by the TDI webpage, instead
of them
> > > > offering the single CDs. THE SINGLE CDs WILL BE AVAILABLE FROM
OTHER
> > > RETAILERS!
> > > 
> > > not till 1999
> > 
> > 
> > Where are you getting that date? TDI wrote to Gabe (from the tadream
> > list) and made it clear that 'All items listed as 'in stock' will be
> > available through the big WWW CD retailers (CDnow! etc.) or local
record
> > stores in a couple of weeks.'
> 
> Well it's good to see *somebody* read it! Thanks Sean.

> > SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator
> 
> Gabe

I just got back from Pheonix... I went to 6 different record shops
all around town.. I did not see anything new.. nothing.. 
No 'DM II' no 'Ambient Monkeys' no 'Tournado' 
So it takes a very long time for music to reach store shelves..
and I think the better way is to just order them on-line. But
until I get a credit card myself, that becomes a tough task.
I guess I was thinking 1999 because I'm not expecting
to find these albums anytime soon.

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From: 
tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) 
Date:  Mon Jun 8, 1998  7:53
am
Subject:  Re: Eddie and Jerry needing cash for bad habits




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Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' 


> Really-From: Robert Grabowsky 
> 
> 
> Hey Gang,
> With the price of the Dream Dice Box set being $300 US,
> for 12-14 CDs, I was wondering if Edgar and Jerome might have 
> some bad habit we do not know about and they need some quick cash. (No
> credit cards can be used to order)
> When I bought the Klaus Schulze Historic Edition it was 10 CD's for
$150
> US which is $15 per disc. And the Jubilee
> Edition was $350 US for 25 discs which would be $14 per disc.
> So I am asking what is the deal here?

Maybe Jerome was relieved of his post as one of the operations managers at
Ian Anderson's salmon farms, so he needs some extra spending cash ;-)

E-Man

	




From: 
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Date:  Mon Jun 8, 1998  7:19
am
Subject:  




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Really-From: Stephen Yensen 


>Really-From: mchmiele@i... (mark chmielewski)
>
>Stephen,
>
> Who am I? A Canadian. Been a TD Fan since about '82
> Postings...Only been on a few weeks
> Friendly...Definitely. (By the way I was not ranting)
> 
> To the Yanks I ticked off....just remember we Canucks are cousins with
> you.....

Ok, Ok, I was getting so fed up with the name-calling that I finally hit out.
You were nearest. Sincere apologies for that. No hard feelings, eh. :-)

Steve.

NP: Rockoon (yawn...)


	






    
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From: 
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Date:  Mon Jun 8, 1998  8:53
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Subject:  Re: Eddie and Jerry needing cash for bad habits




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Really-From: 'Jim & Sew Fong Jordan' 


Can't comment much on pricing, except to say that I spent the $300 for 
TD, but probably would not spend $150 for Klaus (perhaps a supply & 
demand issue).

However, I would like to point out that if they had accepted credit 
cards, they would have the cash a lot sooner than they will this way.



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